RE: Duplicates are Selves

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Wed Apr 09 2003 - 01:58:23 MDT

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    Serafino writes

    > On Friday, April 04, 2003 10:16 AM
    > Lee wrote:
    > > So, I'll just go back to my former claim: if you believe physics
    > > with all your heart, and so don't suppose that the particular atoms
    > > that you are composed of have anything to do with who you are, then
    > > you won't mind teleporting, because the pattern of atoms will be
    > > the same after as before.
    >
    > The point, imo, is 'fidelity'.
    ...
    > Now it can be shown... that, due to the no-cloning
    > theorem, we can get a *local* quantum transfer or a
    > *remote* quantum teleportation of one quantum
    > state, with a fidelity f > 2/3, just if we destroy
    > the original. It can be shown, also, that without
    > destroying the original, we can realize a *local*
    > quantum cloning, or a *remote* quantum faxing,
    > of several copies (from 2 to n), but in the
    > fidelity range of 1/2 < f < 2/3.
    >
    > Thus, due to the linearity of quantum algebra,
    > and due to Heisenberg's relations, it seems very
    > difficult to reach, locally or remotely, by deterministic
    > or even by probabilistic means, a perfect xoxing,

    Yes, but IMO the point is that perfect fidelity is
    completely unnecessary. Let us, fancifully, suppose
    that the Atmosphere within the room where I am typing
    this is to be considered an Operator that operates on
    my physical body by bombarding it with many, many more
    than 10^20 atomic strikes per second. Suppose that
    at the end of 1 microsecond, it transforms me from
    |Lee> to O|Lee>, namely into a person not exactly the
    same as I was before this microsecond bombardment.
    (By the same token, I undergo vast changes internally
    that we might suppose to be unaffected, as a first
    approximation, by outside influences, and so metaphorically
    at least is its own unitary transformation.)

    The result is that within one microsecond I am transformed
    into a completely different quantum state. Yet I retain
    my identity, and I do not consider such operations as
    identity-threatening. Now quantum mechanics does allow
    in principle that my state might be copied to some remote
    location, but with an even smaller similar loss of fidelity.
    So long as the loss in fidelity is less than I would experience
    in a microsecond anyway, teleportation would create what
    is for all practical purposes a physical duplicate, rife
    with the philosophical consequences of interest.

    Lee



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