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Date: Mon Mar 31 2003 - 17:04:11 MST
As an aside, I have heard arguments that the render unto Caeser quote is a
misinterpretation, that
what Yeshua was referring to was an Old Testament text, and that the meaning
in context
is "nothing is Caeser's: therefore render unto him nothing".
Sharia law is incompatible with the principles of choice, for example the
believe that apostates can be punished.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael M. Butler" <mmb@spies.com>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Can Extropianism and Islam coexist?
> Hey Eliezer! Is this an IRAQ thread? I can't tell.
>
> Ahem. Following on from my first post to this thread:
>
> One way of casting what seems to me to be the crucial question is "Can
> _Islam_ tolerate /'the separation of Church and State'/?"
>
> Sayyid Qutb was a modern-day, madrassa-and-college-educated Muslim scholar
> who was hanged (/martyred) in Egypt in 1966. His influence has grown
since.
>
> His answer to that question was, based on my reading of secondary sources,
> a resounding "NO." The "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and render
> unto God what is God's" of the Christian New Testament was in his view the
> core error of Western Civilization and the cause of all that he found
wrong
> with it--apart from a huge streak of Zionism-related perfidy, that is.
>
> His masterwork is said to be a huge text called "In the Shadow of the
> Quran"--written in prison on smuggled paper, currently in translation to
> English as "fifteen fat volumes". I have not read them, but I hope to
> browse them someday soon.
>
> This book has been referred to, by some, as "Das Kapital for Islamicists".
> But I am told that does not do it justice--it is sweeping, lyrical and
> embodies deep currents of compassion for the disaffected. As long as they
> submit to Allah.
>
> So, to borrow from William F. Buckley and V. I. Lenin:
>
> "The question then becooooomes: 'What is to be done?'"
>
> MMB
>
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