Re: [IRAQ] polls on the war

From: Spudboy100@aol.com
Date: Sun Mar 30 2003 - 19:10:41 MST

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    Damien (Caltech!) stated:
    <<90% of Spaniards and French oppose the war.  And the Spanish government is
    one of our allies.>>

    De-fanging and destroying regimes which play the rogue state-terrorist
    alliances are emphatically, not a popularity contest. That the descendents of
    Laval and Petain, in France'; and Franco in Spain find opposition to the
    undoing of "their" oil suppliers and commerical customers, bothers me not a
    fig.

    <<In Germany, of course, Schroeder was elected on anti-war sentiment>>
    Yah! What a royal prize he is, and as for Deutschland, see the above
    paragraph.

    <<As for the heavy burdens bit we've been bearing alone, what do you have in
    mind?  The Cold War?  Europe supported us there.  WW II?  We were hardly
    alone
    in that.  What, really>>
    This can't be right.. The USA, through democratic and republican
    administrations funded NATO at 85% total cost per year, during the cold war.
    There were some costs in the maintenance of bases, as far as tanks and
    airpower, the Euros went lite, and that includes the development of Tornado
    fighters, Franco-Italian production of Gazelle helicopters. We produced the
    vast majority of the fighter and cargo aircraft that resided in Nato. The
    number of European based M-60 series and Abrams tanks far outrank the smaller
    number of UK Challanger and Chieftain tanks, German Leopards, as well as any F
    rench AMX-30 or 40's that might have been used, had the Soviets penetrated
    the Fulda Gap. The US was the dog and not the tail as far as cold war funding
    went.

    <<We can't even stop prison rape in the US, but we're going to war to stop it
    elsewhere?

    -xx- Damien X-) >>

    If the President wants to set a moral high tone and "liberate" Iraq, that's
    ok by me.
    I am far more cynical regarding what we are doing in Iraq, and have less of a
    high standard for how the United States behaves. I stand for and hope our
    primary target is; to de-fang rogue regimes like Iraq who delight in using
    "plausible deniability" by arming "guerilla groups."



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