Re: Spreading better memes (Re: Can Extropianism and Islam coexist?)

From: Anders Sandberg (asa@nada.kth.se)
Date: Sat Mar 29 2003 - 04:24:16 MST

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    On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 05:58:44PM -0800, Cory Przybyla wrote:
    > What are recommendations for the best way to spread
    > transhuman memes to the more resistant population,
    > which also seems to be in the vast majority?

    The key is making the memes thinkable. If you were
    promoting (say) socialism, environmentalism or
    conservatism you would find it far easier, since these are
    memes that belong to the "playing field" of people. They
    might disagree vehemently, but these ideas are part of the
    accepted discourse. Transhumanism isn't part of it, and
    hence will not be easy to spread or get people to take
    seriously. Even if many people know about an idea it will
    not be part of "real" discussions - a lot of people know
    about the Raelians and their views, but they are not taken
    seriously.

    The key is not to try to spread the meme widely, since
    that will mainly fail to convince people in the current
    situation. Instead it is to enlarge the playing field to
    include transhumanism as one view it is possible to have.
    That requires another strategy.

    > Now I know a lot of people on this list have probably
    > had successes dealing with the
    > professional/intelligensia, but since we definetely
    > need as least some of the working class, the middlemen
    > of society (I'm not being insulting, I'm one of them),
    > to come around I'd like to know if anyone has had much
    > success intriguing people on transhuman memes. Or if
    > anyone just has suggestions on things to say, ways to
    > approach this.

    Where do these people get their ideas from? Who determines
    what is acceptable or serious to think, and what isn't?
    The answer is that it is the intelligensia that does this,
    in a kind of cascade effect: the obscure discussions among
    academics affect highbrow journals and their pundits, who
    in turn speak with politicians, experts and media. And the
    media spreads out the memes from this core group. The flow
    of memes is to a large extent unidirectional; at least the
    flow "downwards" is far more intense than the "upwards"
    flow. This means that if you want to reach the "common
    people" you will have far more effect by making your case
    to the central core and then let is spread memes than to
    spend time convincing people you meet.

    Still, everything helps. One good way of making people
    more amenable to think about transhuman things is to show
    them "evidence" from the media - "Look! These nobel prize
    winners are in favor of genetic engineering, and here is
    their explanation why. You can check their arguments for
    yourself. And here is an article about how the handicap
    organizations are wrestling with bionics. And over here is
    a paper about memory enhancement and how much Wall Street
    invests in it. Do you still think I'm a lone crazy?"

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