From: hubert mania (humania@t-online.de)
Date: Sat Mar 29 2003 - 00:44:37 MST
Aaah, come on Mike, you can do harder and better than that. But this is all
I wanted to achieve: show you and the rest of your patriot friends, that you
are annoyed by a virtual PC (puke container) while I am annoyed by the blood
in the streets caused by your fine Christian fundamentalist leader who
encourages killing civilians.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael M. Butler" <mmb@spies.com>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:59 PM
Subject: I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T POST THIS, AND I KNOW IT, BUT I HAVE TO:
INCIVLITY / FLAME WARNING
> This reply is almost certainly a lapse in judgement on my part. All
> ambulatory noncombatants, please relocate behind the yellow-and-black
> concrete revetments.
>
> "I try. I really try." --Billy Jack
>
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:46:40 +0100, hubert mania <humania@t-online.de>
> wrote:
> > Courtesy of DUMP (Dangerous Undisclosed Militant Pacifists)
>
> ## Sarcasm Warning 12345: No courtesy evident. ## Semantic mismatch:
> "Undisclosed," huh? Never let quality stand in the way of witless
wordplay.
>
> ...scrollback...
>
> > This is the first official announcement of the Secretary of PUKE
> > (Professional Uplifting Killing Experience)
> >
> > Bring your personal throw up to the local PC!
> >
> >> From today on everybody who feels like he has to puke when watching
> >> Fuehrer
> > George Troubleyou Bush addressing the US army, or US /UK war criminals
> > killing Iraqui civilians might bring his warmest throw up to his local
PC
> > (Puke Container) where the community's collective stomach contents will
> > be
> > gathered and sent to the White House in Washington, D.C., USA as our
live
> > stream contribution to this glorious crusade of God's own country.
> >
> > Humania
>
> It has been evident for some time now that you have very strong feelings,
> Mr. Mania. And that's fine; many of us do. Permit me to express some of
> mine. If you can be militant for pacifism, I think I can and must militate
> for--whatever my view is, if it can be fairly labeled. So here goes. Sorry
> for the long letter, I didn't have time to write a short one.
>
> This latest passionate post of yours trivializes the matters at hand, and
> suggests to me that you are perhaps feeling rather powerless.
>
> As Samantha and others have noted on this list, it is quite possible that
> the world stands on the threshold of WW IV (or III, take your pick), or
the
> N+1th Crusade, or something just as full of pain and peril, but harder to
> label.
>
> Do you really, *really* find puking the most effective response?
>
> <flame=HIGH>
>
> If that's the best you can offer, I'd much prefer that you (personally)
> puke all over yourself and then simmer in it as you choke. Which is what
> you seem to be doing with this post. Good show! Feels good to puuuuuke,
> doesn't it--makes you HOLY, right? Holier than, well, just about anybody
> you're sure is a MONSTER, right? Keep it up, and don't mind the airway.
> Puking for change is FUN and PRODUCTIVE. Plus, in email, nobody has to
> smell it, or administer CPR. YOU BETCHA, you're REALLY going to show
> Troubleyou a thing or two.
>
> <flame=OFF>
>
> Maybe you actually have diagnosable mania. I have come close to wondering
> about myself once or twice; in those cases I sometimes felt righteous to
> the point of (on later reflection) absurdity. It's part of the pattern.
>
> <flame=MEDIUM>
>
> Get a clue. Until you're willing to set yourself on fire on the steps of
> the Capitol building, your impotent pointless posturing engenders my pity
> and contempt, even while I share some of your fears.
>
> I'll repeat that: ...EVEN WHILE I SHARE SOME OF YOUR FEARS, YOU ENGENDER
MY
> PITY AND CONTEMPT.
>
> I hate reinstituting killfiles, I really do. But a "SELF-INDULGENT
> SANCTIMONIOUS ASSHOLE" email hotkey is substantially less civil, wouldn't
> you agree? Yes, announcing a PLONK is always, in large part, a self-
> indulgent thing. I wish I could bring myself to just silently killfile
you--
> but the fact is that my sentiments don't fit into your compartments and I
> felt/thought that the list deserved mine at least as much as yours. And
> just like puking, plonkng feeeels gooooooood. So I'm not claiming I'm that
> much better than you, no siree.
>
> I hope you actually get a grip someday (/again); these are hard times. In
> the meantime, accept
>
> My heartiest warm puke-soaked wishes,
>
> MMB
>
>
>
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