Re: WAR: Apparently the internet does NOT see censorship as damage and route

From: R. Coyote (coyyote@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Mar 26 2003 - 01:01:19 MST

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    Thanks Mike

    and to the "Its all Americas fault, all the time (tm)"
     Sadam thanks you, you give him quite the erection.

    btw, I do have the pictures

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mike Lorrey" <mlorrey@yahoo.com>
    To: <extropians@extropy.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:07 PM
    Subject: Re: WAR: Apparently the internet does NOT see censorship as damage
    and route

    >
    > REgarding Google removing data from the web: yeah, so? Google isn't the
    > web, and its owners can remove whatever they want from their own
    > servers. That isn't censorship, that is version management.
    >
    > RE: much about al Jazeera being off the internet...
    >
    > Having heard that the NY Stock Exchange has decertified Al Jazeera's
    > correspondent at the exchange, I think that either a) some pissed
    > hackers have whacked Al Jazeera's server, or b) given that al Jazeera
    > will likely come under prosecution for war crimes (making POWs a public
    > spectacle and contributing to their humiliation) they might have even
    > been pulled offline by their own government at this point.
    >
    > As I've repeatedly stated on this list, it appears that far too many
    > people are either ignorant of the Geneva Conventions, or just don't
    > give a damn about them. Do you think they are rules that only the US
    > can be held to? Don't you realize that if one side tosses out the
    > Geneva Conventions, this frees the other to do the same? Do you think
    > they only apply to military units when their own country isn't under
    > attack?
    >
    > Today we saw a lot of evidence that Saddam and his henchmen have tossed
    > out the rulebook wholesale. They are using human shields, they are
    > dressing in civilian clothes, they are faking surrenders as a means of
    > ambush, they are using hospitals as bases of operations for military
    > attacks, they are hiding in cemetaries, they are shooting civilians who
    > are revolting against them, and they are even dressing up as American
    > troops and taking the surrender of other Iraqi troops only to shoot
    > them for doing so. I would not be surprised if many of the 'human
    > shields' are their own men dressed as civilians.
    >
    > Much has been trumpeted on this list by people like Samantha, Hubert,
    > Amara, Naddy, and others that they consider the US to be the big
    > threat. Who is it that is breaking the rules here? Not the US. Who is
    > it that is violating human rights willy-nilly? Not the US.
    >
    > Our forces are struggling not just to free people who want to be freed,
    > our forces are working hard to get them aid so they can eat and drink
    > tomorrow, while Khofi Annan has abdicated UN responsibility for any aid
    > to people in Iraq, and Turkey is only interested in using the
    > opportunity to eliminate Kurd forces, and the socialist/communist
    > organizations around the world continue to demonstrate they are not for
    > human rights, they are not for democracy or freedom. They are only
    > interested in subverting the rule of law and attacking the real bastion
    > of liberty in the world.
    >
    > =====
    > Mike Lorrey
    > "Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
    > - Gen. John Stark
    > "Pacifists are Objectively Pro-Fascist." - George Orwell
    > "Treason doth never Prosper. What is the Reason?
    > For if it Prosper, none Dare call it Treason..." - Ovid
    >
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