RE: [WAR]: Does *anybody* read libertarian views against this war?

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Wed Mar 19 2003 - 16:39:50 MST

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    Amara writes

    > >Seriously, I'll bet the Nolan chart pretty well predicts your stance...
    >
    > Oh yes, I first used about the Nolan chart some 20 years (?) ago.
    > I've recommended it on extropians several times. (really... I thought
    > my political and philosophical leanings were glaringly obvious, but
    > maybe not.)

    Oh, I wasn't meaning to speak directly to you, Amara, about this.
    Just newbies only ;-) the quiz has been mentioned numerous times
    even since I joined.

    Anders writes

    > Maybe it is because there is no "pure" libertarian position on this
    > war. I can see libertarians reach very different conclusions on whether
    > this is initiation of force or not, and these conclusions will largely
    > be based on issues external to libertarian ideology (like how much you
    > trust the evidence given by different groups, interpretations of
    > international law etc).

    Yes, but libertarianism appears to me to lack a cohesive worldview
    as regards war. IMO, it's one of libertarianism's problems. The
    Darwinian advent of states, and states at war with each other
    fighting over territory, would be apparent to anyone ignorant of
    humanity who looked at a globe. The only places not under the
    direct control of a single nation are those areas that are too
    inhospitable.

    I do not know of any other political orthodoxy that does not
    have a pretty consistent view of war. But that's entirely
    to be expected, I guess, since libertarianism starts with
    a questioning of the necessity of states.

    Lee



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