From: Anders Sandberg (asa@nada.kth.se)
Date: Sun Mar 16 2003 - 16:45:23 MST
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 12:18:42PM -0800, spike66 wrote:
>
> This gave me an idea for a fun and educational little
> game we could play.
Fun idea. To some extent it is the same thing as a spam contest - how to
write spam that gets through the filters and filters that gets rid of
the spam. Good exercise before building nanoimmune systems.
> Winner of the P team is the one who writes the filter
> which most effectively identifies the Ks porn while
> filtering the fewest non-porn articles. The winning
> K is the one who writes the most provocative "porn"
> that makes it thru the most filters.
Actually, I think this is slightly unfair to the P team, since it is
unclear how to judge the filters while porn is in the mind of the
beholder and can get really raunchy. As Tom Lehrer sings:
All books can be indecent books
Though recent books are bolder,
For filth (I'm glad to say) is in
the mind of the beholder.
When correctly viewed,
Everything is lewd.
(I could tell you things about Peter Pan,
And the Wizard of Oz, there's a dirty old man!)
Maybe the ideal porn filter would be a program that actually had a dirty
mind and hence could identify pornography?
Statistically speaking, we have to weight the type I and II errors. Is
it worse to filter out a "clean" message than letting through a "dirty"?
For a real porn filter the goal ought to be to annoy the user so much
when trying to get to the porn that it is no longer fun, but where is
the fun in constructing something like that?
> Actually anyone could compete on both teams, writing
> an essay and a filter. This sounds like a fun little
> exercise in creative writing, as well as surely
> producing some hilarious material.
I would like to test out my neural nets on this later on, after I have
finished a certain dissertation (Aargh! It is alive! It grows without
bound! I have created a monster! :-)
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