RE: more stupid legislative tricks to bring on early death, disability and suffering

From: Reason (reason@exratio.com)
Date: Fri Feb 28 2003 - 21:52:35 MST

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    ---> Anders Sandberg

    > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:59:52AM -0800, nanowave wrote:
    > >
    > > Don't sweat it man, the human cloning thing was just a mirage
    > anyway. Who
    > > needs it? Who cares? Let the gov toss the right wingers this
    > scrawny little
    > > carrot to gnaw on and savor. Seems there are more roads to
    > immortality than
    > > you can shake a stick at, and the majority of them remain well below the
    > > radars of the fearfully ignorant villagers. Spend the rest of
    > the day in bed
    > > with a willing female and create for our cause some reasonable,
    > well rounded
    > > rug rats. Nothing better than kids for teaching you to pick your battles
    > > wisely.
    >
    > Meanwhile, Fukuyama and Kass are continuing their stated mission of
    > preventing a posthuman world. Do not underestimate the opposition, they
    > have some very good strategic thinkers that fully realize that today is
    > just the first step towards eventual mortalist triumph. While some short
    > sighted conservatives do not think about antioxidants, telomeres and
    > uploading, there are others who do. If the transhumanists are asleep
    > (ahem) the rug rats will end up living (and *dying*) in a world defined
    > by somebody else.

    Yes. As Anders points out, these people are not anti-cloning, nor do they
    have a narrow view. Both Fukuyama and Kass have stated clearly and up front
    that they are pro-status-quo in terms of human capabilities. This means
    pro-death, pro-suffering, pro-disease, pro-aging (all of which, again, has
    been clearly stated on numerous occasions). They want there to be no
    expansion of the capabilities of mind and body on their watch. Since these
    bioethicists and hangers-on are in essence Statists, they believe that is is
    perfectly fine to use the engine of the State to coerce, force and impose.
    In other words, they advocate and *actively work towards* mass murder on a
    scale dwarfing anything that humans have "achieved" to date.

    As Anders also points out, they are doing a better job of killing us than we
    are doing of staying alive at this point in time.

    Reason
    http://www.exratio.com/

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