Re: IRAQ sort of: Re: Tim May calls for nuking of D.C.

From: Andrew Clough (aclough@mit.edu)
Date: Sat Feb 22 2003 - 15:22:08 MST

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    Kai M. Becker:
    >Geoff Tillman schrieb:
    >>American politicians are elected by the American People to serve American
    >>interests. That is the very nature of a democratic goverment.
    >
    >If (US)American politicians only care for (US)American interests, they'll
    >soon see, that the other 5.75 bio. humans have ways to make their
    >interests clear. Be it diplomatic talks, demonstrations - or attempted
    >airplane landings in large buildings.
    >
    >>The UN in neither a world goverment nor is it democratic by any means.
    >>If you do not like that system then work to create a democratic world
    >>state but don't believe it exists yet.
    >
    >No, such a democratic world government doesn't exist yet, and perhaps we
    >shouldn't want one, but there are such things as international treaties
    >and one party - by far not the only one, but the most important - that
    >ignores signed treaties is the US government. They broke bilateral
    >treaties (Nicaragua, th US got even convicted for this), presented faked
    >evidence to justify wars (Vietnam, Golf War I, Grenada), support
    >dictators, war lords and even extreme religious fanatics and give a shit
    >for freedom and democracy, whenever they have to choose between what is
    >right and what serves US interests. Saddam Hussein got his Anthrax
    >stems from Mr. Donald Rumsfeld himself.

    I was wondering what you were referring to when you mentioned the US using
    faked evidence to justify its wars in Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, and
    Grenada. I'm not saying that I disagree, just that I am ignorant of what
    you are referring to. I've heard that the Kuwaiti government in exile lied
    about what was happening back home to secure the assistance of the US and
    UN, but that could hardly be what you are talking about. Likewise, I know
    that the Gulf of Tonkin incident turned out to be the imagination of the
    commander on the scene, and LBJ probably should have been able to figure
    this out by the time he addressed the US senate on the matter. Please clarify.



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