RE: Giant anti-war demonstration in Melbourne

From: nanowave (nanowave@shaw.ca)
Date: Sun Feb 16 2003 - 15:57:53 MST

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    brian197 writes:
    > I think people in the states must realise that the
    >anti war Demonstrations are not anti American it is
    >just Europes way of saying that we are fed up with
    >America throwing it`s wait around internationally

    I find it interesting, but not surprising, that so many are quick to
    criticize the policies of the current leadership of the free world. From a
    mehum perspective, I guess it's just good fun to poke our thumbs in our ears
    and make moosey faces at a target characterized as simply "The
    Administration", "The US" or "Dubya and his goons". So much the easier then
    to imagine a gang of Saturday night rednecks cruising around in a pickup
    truck in search of some hapless homo to beat up.

    But from a transhumanist perspective, such over-simplifications ought to be
    viewed as noise. I mean we ARE talking about an incredibly complex
    sociotechnopolitical human-machine symbiotic organizational entity here -
    one that, for better or worse, currently sits in the driver's seat of human
    evolution.

    Ron h writes:
    >I am not for one moment convinced that the
    >reason for attacking Iraq is anything to do with it's suffering citizens or
    >Iraqs threat to the World which it certainly is not or about weapons of
    mass
    >destruction.

    Instead we debate "the one single reason" America is going to war against
    Iraq, as if such a complex decision has ever existed within the realm of
    SINGLE reasons. There are a multitude of reasons, and foremost is the fact
    that Saddam is a pain in the world's butt. And yes, even though the
    temptation may to limit that by stating that he's a pain in America's butt,
    who here supposes that when America gets a pain in its butt, the rest of the
    world can avoid getting a pain in its butt.

    Also, since Saddam's not-nearly-so-complex sociopolitical organization has
    yet to honor the ORIGINAL CONDITIONS that led to a cease fire during Gulf
    War 1, technically speaking, that war is still ongoing. All those who have
    now flip-flopped to oppose taking the bull by the horns show only that they
    are incapable of sustaining their resolve for any length of time against a
    cunning, methodical adversary.

    Personally, I think if it can be shown that Saddam murdered ONE SINGLE HUMAN
    BEING in order to attain or maintain his nefarious role as self-appointed
    demigod to the Iraqi people, he should be removed IMMEDIATELY. The same
    would go for George Bush of course, although the American system would make
    short work of any politician who even tried killing his way to the top.
    Another straw that really ought to break the camel's back is if Saddam has
    directly (and obviously he has done this indirectly) prevented ordinary
    Iraqi citizens from accessing the internet and the global mind. In my view,
    that should now constitute a crime against humanity.

    So brian197, I too am growing frustrated with the current "wait around"
    policy. And who exactly is footing the bill for all this waiting around to
    see if Saddam will suddenly recognize just how UNITED the world is against
    his particular brand of ideocracy.

    Russell Evermore



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