RE: Where the I is

From: Brent Allsop (allsop@extropy.org)
Date: Sun Feb 09 2003 - 12:34:10 MST

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    Jeff Allbright jef@jefallbright.net
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    >>>I've read through your essay on
    qualia but I'm going to have to read it
    again and think about it some more to
    understand how it fits. To me, the
    idea of qualia implies a recursively
    nested "Cartesian theater" scenario,
    requiring at each level a homunculus to
    observe the play.<<<

    Thank you for reading my paper! I do
    cover this in the paper. This view is
    not the "Cartesian theater" since there
    is no observer in a theater. The
    representation of the information is
    simply what the person consciously
    knows.
    >>>If take a look at the behavior of a
    complex system with multiple feedback
    loops, you might feel that it is
    amazingly responsive to it's
    environment,
    but you won't necessarily find any
    one-to-one mapping or representation of
    the outside world within the system
    begin examined. You could try to build
    it that way, but it wouldn't be
    efficient, and at the lowest level the
    mapping wouldn't hold true.<<<

    Yes, this is one point of view. There
    are many intelligent people that would
    agree with this. But it is my opinion
    that this view is wrong and not
    applicable to us. We have very rich
    conscious representations that map very
    closely to the reality we are aware of.
    Everything we know is not the object
    itself, but our conscious representation
    of it. It is my opinion that accurate
    representations are the most efficient
    at being intelligent in versatile and
    creative ways. If an intelligent being
    knows something, there is something that
    is part of him that is that knowledge.
    The more this knowledge deviates from
    accurate representations, the more
    problems this intelligence will
    experience when it comes to dealing with
    the world in creative ways...

    I pretty much agree with the rest of
    what you said.

    Brent Allsop



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