From: Max M (maxmcorp@worldonline.dk)
Date: Thu Feb 06 2003 - 07:20:32 MST
Spudboy100@aol.com wrote:
> Max R. said:
> <<If there is no soul, as I am convinced. And if uploading is possible, as
> I am convinced, then the I/mind is just the calculations taking place
> inside the brain. It is not the brain itself.
> Well this has been obvious for me for a long time. But what freaked me
> out a bit, is that it is not the flesh that has conscience but the
> 'calculations' that is done in the flesh. And the flesh is only the
> interface that allows us to experience the world.
> And it is pretty hard to imagine mathematics that is self aware, but
> that must be the consequence.>>
>
> Yes, Max. The number, 33982.11 has told me in dreams that it is really angry
> at you. But number 760143 thinks that your preference for Trance music is
> really bitchin' .
You are simplifying it too much. It is the state and the process that is
intelligence and life. Which should be expressable as mathematics. Well
a combination of math and logic at least. Also there need to be some
kind of complexity for it to be intelligence.
The kind of medium that the state and process exists in doesn't matter
in principle.
But please tell 760143 that I actually cannot stand trance music ;-)
> Without a nice, squishy, brain to become aware of numbers, numbers, in a
> sense, don't exist. Mathematics doesn't exist for a hunting leopard, or for a
> paramecium, does it?
Any Turing complete machine should be a suitable medium for this. The
fact that our mind machine runs inside this squishy mind/nature
interface greatly influences the program that it runs. And so gives us a
large part of the desires we have.
Oh oh - I feel the need for a definition here. but knowing how this
works, somebody has shurely thought of it before me.
So what is it called, this "machine" that is capable of running an
intelligence of human complexity? Something sufficiently complex to both
store the state and process of an intelligence that corresponds to a
human brain.
If nothing exist, I will suggest "mbrain". But then again, that is
probably used for something else.
-- hilsen/regards Max M Rasmussen, Denmark http://www.futureport.dk/ Fremtiden, videnskab, skeptiscisme og transhumanisme
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