Re: PERIPHERAL - bio/ecological query

From: Anders Sandberg (asa@nada.kth.se)
Date: Thu Feb 06 2003 - 06:18:43 MST

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    On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 01:44:12PM +1100, Russell Blackford wrote:

    > IF it happened like this, what would the major tropical/equatorial
    > forests of places like Brazil look like after, say, 15-30 years?

    Looking at old ecological data might be helpful. Unfortunately little
    is known. A popular theory seem to be that the "natural" state of the
    Amazon during the last ice age was mostly a svannah, with isolated
    (but still sizeable) forest refuges at the edges. However, this
    picture has been challenged:
    http://www.umich.edu/~newsinfo/Releases/1996/Oct96/r100296.html

    So, given the current uncertainty any climate ought to be possible.
    However, a darkening of the sky would likely kill off many trees. If
    this was just a few months seedlings would start sprouting almost
    immediately after (and during) the removal of the canopy, and they
    would within a few years (if the climate remained good enough) sprout
    and start to become new trees.

    > Presumably they would die but a lot of the big trees would remain
    > standing. What sort of new vegetation could we expect to grow in what waa
    > left of these jungles?

    What about this possibility: the old trees largely die, to be replaced
    by opportunists and stranglers like figs. The colder climate makes
    many of these fail, leaving a sparser ecosystem dominated by vertical
    "weeds" that use the remains of the trees to climb and get nutrients.
    The major loss of canopy would destroy many of the ecological niches
    for the cool unique animals, but seed-gathering birds, ants,
    wood-eating insects and the animals that prey on them would certainly
    remain.

    I think you have a fairly broad range of possibilities to play with
    here; you can fit the forest environment to the scenario you are
    setting up.

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