From: Dickey, Michael F (michael_f_dickey@groton.pfizer.com)
Date: Mon Feb 03 2003 - 11:57:02 MST
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From: humania@t-online.de
Humania, I am sure you are an intelligent compasionate and interesting
person, so I am confused about your statements in this message, which to me
seem morally repugnant, corrupt, intellectual dishonest, counterproductive,
and anti-extropian to the extreme.
You said
"Call me what you will or think of me what you will. I will not engage in
mind games about better or worse superpowers anymore. I am sick of being in
the position where I must justify my peace loving attitude. This is
absolutely ridiculous."
When peace loving attitudes of the past have lead to the worse mass murders
in humanities history, you can rightly expect those of us with knowledge of
these historical events to challenge your attitude that 'peace loving' is
automatically a moral high ground. I love peace as much as you I am sure,
despite what you may think, which is why I want to see it for all people,
even the people in Iraq, and north korea, and Iran, and china, and and and
and... Your attitudes sentence the people who were born in areas not as
political free as yours to lives of oppression, murder, and slavery. That
is NOT peace. That is NOT extropian. That is NOT transhuman.
"All of you, who are so war horny today, YOU (plural) are the ones who
should ask yourselves if you still have anything to do with transhumanism. "
And you should ask yourself that as well, as you sit idly by while millions
live in oppression and murder. Not only do you sit idly by, you oppose
efforts to eliminate it. Is that transhuman? Are efforts to stop such
travesty also against the promotion and well being of humanity, technology,
and progress? Considering these regimese endorse the exact opposite of all
those, and kill thousands or millions in the process, I find it difficult to
understand the justification for your stance.
"No power has the right to attack a country even if a monster of a dictator
rules there. The US/UK junta is going to ignite a world fire pretty soon and
the supporters of war among you know it."
This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I have read as yet.
You are essentially endorsing the existence of murderous governments,
inaction is morally no different then support. It is attitudes like yours
that forbade the US from involving itself in the Cambodian holocaust, where
ultimately more than 2 million people were killed. A monstrous dictator has
no right to be a dictator, and his country has no right to exist under his
rule. Your moral concepts are strange and internally inconsistent, they
seem to only be comprised of 'lets just all get along!!!!' It would be nice
if we all did, but some people out there prefer to murder and oppress than
to get along, and fighting them is a moral cause. I find you absolute black
and white rule of "No power has the right to attack a country even if.."
absurd, new agey, and not grounded in any reality I know of, except one that
endorses that lack of one.
"Love, Peace, Over And Out"
No one is free unless everyone is free.
Michael Dickey
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