Re: Hydrogen as SCAM?

From: Kai Becker (kmb@cameron.kn-bremen.de)
Date: Sun Feb 02 2003 - 07:02:37 MST


Am Samstag, 1. Februar 2003 21:10 schrieb Rafal Smigrodzki:
> ### "Virtual profitability" is a delusion. Tax use to support any type
> of energy production is not making it profitable - the net loss to
> those who pay taxes is always higher than the gain to the energy users.

That's why I wrote "virtual" :-)

> BTW, nuclear fission did not require significant tax money outside of
> basic R&D during the war (except perhaps in Europe, where everything
> seems to be supported by taxes), and if you take away the massive
> costs imposed by regulation, political interference in waste disposal,
> and legal attacks by greens, is still cheaper than wind power.

Well, the nuclear industry here received billions of DMarks as open or
indirect support. E.g. the state as share holder in energy corp.,
infrastructure, security personnel, R&D. Plus several laws made to reduce
costs for fisson power, e.g. by relieving them of the costs for the
disposal and security of nuclear waste.

I remember when the bavarian Ministerpräsident (Govenor) once loudly
promoted the reprocessing plant in Wackersdorf, when the nuclear industry
had already left the party (because La Hague (France)) had made them a
better offer).

I have also seen several calculations that the total costs for fission
per MWh are much higher than for several alternatives. Of course, some
cost factors are much higher here, because we don't have wide deserts for
power plants or waste disposal.

   Kai

-- 
    == Kai M. Becker == kmb@cameron.kn-bremen.de == Bremen, Germany ==
  "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced"


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