Re: Time.com asks you to vote for the most dangerous country

From: MaxPlumm@aol.com
Date: Sat Feb 01 2003 - 12:00:31 MST


Ron H. wrote:

       "But the Samantha's of the world never notice that the Viet Cong was
never heard of again after the Tet offensive. We destroyed it.
       So what has that got to do with Iraq? It is the same thing. Today
Samantha is busy building the opposition up to be 10 feet tall. The army
that we destroyed in 3 days is now so fearsome that we dare not defend
ourselves today. The same people that delighted in seeing us bring Sadaam
down a peg then is going to rise up in mass and smite us down today. Heck in
50 years of constantly trying they haven't even been able to bring down
little Israel but we are helpless just the same.
       However Samantha will have an effect -- possibly. If she encourages
Sadaam to resist us longer than he would have other wise then Samantha will
have managed to get some people killed that would have lived otherwise. That
is certainly the lesson of Vietnam. The Vietnamese say a million of their
people died in that war while the North was being encouraged to hang on until
the peaceniks could stop the resistance to their genocide. Not pretty."

       Well put, Ron, but Samantha could care less as she has illustrated.
The point being, in her mind, Saddam is not the villain, we are. The
Indochinese communist butchers weren't the villains, we were. Remember, the
Vietnam War was "senseless." I'm still trying to figure out why it was
acceptable in most people's minds for us to oppose an invasion force of
135,000 North Koreans in 1950 but the same folks could care less that a Viet
Cong deprived North Vietnamese launched a 200,000 man strong invasion of the
South in 1972.
       I also wonder why the same people who constantly remind us of Kent
State and My Lai are so silent about the North Vietnamese massacres at Hue
during the Tet Offensive, when 25% of the population of that city were
killed. In many cases, whole families were rounded up, surrounded by land
mines, and exploded. Those that weren't were lucky enough to dig their own
graves before being shot.
       And there is of course Pol Pot's Cambodia, in which roughly 2 million
lives were extinguished between 1975-79. One of the worst examples of this
was Pol Pot's prison, Tuol Sleng, where of the 14,000 prisoners, only 7
survived.
       But, as we know, US involvement there was "senseless", and "the worst
kind of tyranny." It's funny, Samantha and those like her tell us that we
shouldn't remove Saddam, "because there are worse dictators out there." Well,
frankly I can't conceive of more heinous regimes than that of Pol Pot and Ho
Chi Minh, but attempting to prevent their crimes is "pointless and
reprehensible", because "we killed people too.." It's odd, but "we killed
people too" when we prevented the Nazis from dominating the world, and
Samantha seems okay with that... :)

Remember, ONLY the Nazis were bad...

Max Plumm

"At every turn, we have been beset by those who find everything wrong with
America and little that is right."

                                                                              
 -Richard Nixon
       
       

       



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