From: Gary Miller (garymiller@starband.net)
Date: Sat Feb 01 2003 - 11:05:26 MST
>The whole concept that you suggest, while having the advantage of
synergy of land use, begs the question of economic viability. What might
push a more, humble wind farm (non-hydrogenic) company, from emerging
profitability; into greater expense to move in a geothermal well, or a
photovoltaic array, is questionable. It might kill profits and eliminate
the wind farm company. Even with clean energy, please do not forget that
money is the mantra
I don't expect the first energy farm of this type to turn a profit as it
would be highly experimental just as the first wind farms were.
It should be government subsidized as part of an overall government
energy research grant.
And you would probably design and model the whole thing on paper first
to see what level of savings various synergies could achieve.
You may want to build the whole thing anyway just so that you can study
the synergy involved and attempt to increase it while decreasing costs.
Commercial energy ventures could study the design and chose to implement
the pieces parts that are most economically feasible.
It should produce a more stable supply of energy since if the sun's
shining the wind may not be blowing. The wind blows at night while
solar would return nothing at night.
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Gary Miller asks:
<<Couldn't these be built in the desert where the land has limited use
for anything else?
Couldn't solar arrays be place between the wind mills to increase the
energy output per acre?
Even geothermal could be colocated in the same area.
All these forms of energy generation could use much of the same
infrastructure.
Plants farther away on the power grid near plentiful water could
generate the hydrogen.
Also isn't the oxygen produced as a byproduct by the process also useful
in other forms of energy production such as the incineration of waste
at high temperature?
Colocation of multiple forms of power generation should reduce the cost
of each! >>
The whole concept that you suggest, while having the advantage of
synergy of land use, begs the question of economic viability. What might
push a more, humble wind farm (non-hydrogenic) company, from emerging
profitability; into greater expense to move in a geothermal well, or a
photovoltaic array, is questionable. It might kill profits and eliminate
the wind farm company. Even with clean energy, please do not forget that
money is the mantra.
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