From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Thu Jan 30 2003 - 13:34:50 MST
avatar wrote:
> So far as it goes the "reins" of "power" are held by the elites in the US
> and Russia, since they hold 95% of the atomic weapons. The European elite
> holds about 2.3% of "power" and the remaining 2.7% is divided between China
> and Israel. I may not agree with the above, but this is the current reality.
> And unfortunately it is not "ultimate" power, it is power per se.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Lorrey" <mlorrey@yahoo.com>
> To: <extropians@extropy.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:47 PM
> Subject: Re: POL: Anti-{American,European}ism
>
>
>
>>--- Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>
>>>Alterman's thesis basically rests on the idea that there are four
>>>demographic groups at play here: European "elites", US "elites",
>>>everybody else in Europe and everybody else in the US. Polls show,
>>>he argues, that three of these groups agree on just about everything
>>>but the renegade group that doesn't--US elites--holds the reins of
>>>global power.
>>>
>>
>>The problem with this assumption is that 77% of Americans (based on a
>>660 person random sample) who watched Bush's State of the Union now
>>agree that Iraq needs invading.
>>
It was, imho, the most well-crafted of Bush speeches to date.
However, I found his arguments for invasion of Iraq far from
compelling. I believe that Bush is less cynical and more
utterly convinced of his course in this and several other areas
than I previously thought. But even accepting your numbers for
a second, belief peaks right after a presentation like this and
then declines thereafter. Nor is the 23% that really disagree
negligible. Nor can you present this poll as significant while
downplaying other polls that say 70% of Americans believe we
should not invade at this time and that we should continue the
inspection process for some months before deciding what to do
next.
- samantha
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