From: Cory Przybyla (recherchetenet@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Jan 29 2003 - 21:38:28 MST
--- J Corbally <icorb@indigo.ie> wrote:
> >Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:43:18 -0800 (PST)
> >From: Cory Przybyla <recherchetenet@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Re: stakeholders in shared grief
>
> As an aside, the vast and overwhelming majority of
> Communists/Socialists
> here are Catholics.
Well of course the Bible describes Jesus as a
socialist in many ways...of course there weren't
factories then, industrialism being key to the
movement. I believe there was a paper out a few years
ago entitled "Jesus: the family-hating communist" the
phrase seems to have become a buzz on shows like
politically incorect as of late.
> I think you'd be incredibly
> hard pushed to find a
> non-believer among them.
maybe in Ireland, but it's definetely mixed in
America.
> Atheism is non-belief. It's difficult to motivate
> people to murder, rape
> and torture for "nothing".
well the original assertion given on the list was that
atheists exhibit the same fervor as those of the
religions of Abraham. (in different words I don't
recall exactly). I seek, still, evidence that this is
true, since although there are plenty embittered
atheists, I know of no evidence that they behave in
the same manner as those of faith except when a cause
known for atrocities was inseparable. After
questioning the assertion and pondering, I feel
comfortable making the challenge that no, atheists
cannot be considered as equivalent, and the religion
apologists who do this cause a grave disservice, IMO.
Secularism is still popular (although people forget
all the little censorship issues and moralistic laws
which faith still governs...a little here, a little
there...) but more and more people speak out for faith
in the schools, and government in America. Whereas
atheists haven't to my knowledge even suggested
anything to infringe on the rights of the religious
save for their 'right' to control others. I
appreciated the link to Dawkins' article
http://www.ffrf.org/dawkins.html provided by Olga, as
he did a good job of explaining why monotheism is the
source of many of the modern world's problems.
Atheism doesn't at all fit into the equation, and when
comments like "well don't forget atheism too" are
stated, it distorts the issue.
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