From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Thu Jan 23 2003 - 21:24:18 MST
Dickey, Michael F wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Samantha Atkins [mailto:samantha@objectent.com]
>
> Dehede011@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>>Samantha,
>> I personally don't think your "feelings" are anything for us to
>
> base
>
>>national policy on. In the first place I can't take your feelings out of
>>your head to even check that you are reporting them accurately. So I
>
> treat
>
>>them as just another rant.
>
>
> "I gave no rant. I told you off for claiming I was just mouthing empty
> slogans as if I had no real thought (several posts accused
> all who think like I of this) or didn't really have any investment but was
> just passing on something I presumably picked up by osmosis."
>
> Such as your opinions on Vietnam?
>
> "Once again you now bob and weave"
>
> Pot calling the kettle black? You should hardly be one to accuse someone of
> 'bobbing and weaving' considering multilpe people on this list have
> repeatedly asked you to justify your stance on Vietnam, especially when you
> make clear statement about opposing murderous regimes (such as Hitler) in
> WWII yet find the same attempt to oppose an even more murderous regime
> 'senseless' when considering Vietnam.
Vietnam is a much less clearcut case. I have neither the time
nor inclination to debate Vietnam when a much more pressing and
immediate senseless war is staring us in the face. That is not
"bobbing and weaving". It is recognizing priorities and
meaningless tactics that it is pointless to spend precious time
playing to.
> I also asked you multiple times what
> you felt of the Korean war, and to compare and contrast it with the Vietnam
> war.
I am not interest in such a discussion. So what?
> Since I made a valient attempt to not come off as making personal
> attacks or present my case in a condescending tone, I can only conclude that
> you can not present the justification for your opinions on these matters and
> thus choose to ignore them entirely.
It is not worth my time or yours.
Or perhaps a small seed of doubt has
> been planted in the back of your mind that those anti-war protests you took
> part in actually contributed to the mass murder of millions of Indochinese
> people. Perhaps you find this so disturbing that this is why you ignore
> these comments and inquiries. Or perhaps I have allready made it into your
> 'kill file' Got to silence those dissenting opinions eh? Or maybe im just
> a promoter of 'anti-communist propoganda'
>
Nope, not a single seed of doubt that that war was morally
reprehensible from the beginning. Sorry.
> "I am done with your massive intellectual dishonesty"
>
> Intellectual dishonesty? I am still waiting to hear if you feel the korean
> war was also 'senseless' and if it wasn't, why was it not senseless yet the
> vietnam war was?
>
I am no expert on the Korean War. Do I have to analyze every
single war to your satisfaction to point out the absurdity of
this one? No, I don't think so. And I don't believe asking me
to play such a game instead of dealing directly with the
arguments is a sign of an honest and to the point discussion.
- samantha
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