Re: Iraq: the case for decisive action

From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Mon Jan 20 2003 - 14:45:28 MST


Dehede011@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1/20/2003 2:41:33 AM Central Standard Time,
> samantha@objectent.com writes: That is the most tongue-in-cheek absurd reply
> I have ever encountred on this list. President Bush is a grade-A jerk who
> should never ever have been allowed into the oval office. He is a clear and
> present danger to this country and to world peace and stability. Where
> exactly are these brilliant answers?
>
> Yes, Samantha, but did you happen to read for content? Or far better did you
> happen to read the email that did a wonderful job of explaining this issue?
> Alternatively did you just grab a phrase you could make something out of and
> blast off for outer space.

What email are you referring to precisely? I have read most
emails and have seen no such wonderful explanation so far.
Perhaps I missed one. Please point it out.

> For example you made a comment in one of your postings about Bush, "He
> is a useful idiot, useful to those who do not have America's best interest as
> their agenda." In the first place I doubt you have any idea what either his
> IQ or his GPA is.

 From his statements and posturings I make the above statement.
  I don't need his IQ or GPA to note he is an idiot.

   Having graduated a rival MBA program I truly doubt you
> have any idea what the program for MBAs at Harvard or Chicago is. In any
> case you over look the abysmal academic record of Al Gore to criticize Bush.
> You and your friends chant about Bush the son of Bush and ignore Gore the son
> of Gore or Kennedy the son of Kennedy and the brother of Kennedy & Kennedy.

Ireelevant. There are many useful idiots - useful to those out
to do great harm intentionally or not. A comparison between
them is pointless.

> Then you toss this in "What is this "we"? You will sit this one out
> due to age and cheer other "boys" on to their death in a more senseless
> conflict than even Vietnam was. Bully for you."
> As to Vietnam that was debated extensively on this list recently and
> another person documented that all the documentary support for the North
> Vietnamese position was a lie. In turn all of your position is based on a
> lie told by the North Vietnamese. However that lie was more attractive to
> you than the truth told by your own country. If David Horowitz is to be
> believed he and some friends of his organized the peace movement, never lost
> control of it, and led folks like you around by the nose. According to Mr.
> Horowitz it was all intended to be harmful to international position of the
> United States.

Again, utterly and completely irrelevant. It was a senseless
war from the beginning fought in a truly senseless and horrific
way. It doesn't take a great deal of analysis to smell the
napalm or count the number of friends and friends and friends of
friends who came home in body bags or with minds and bodies
twisted and mutilated out of shape or to note that the "for
what" was highly speculative and ill-defined at best. The
"international position of the United States" is laughable when
it bankrupts the country for such a senseless exercise. We the
people do precisely what we are supposed to do when we notice
such or notice such brewing again and say "HELL NO".

> As to your remarks about sitting the war out. I am a hawk. I do have
> a DD214 as requested yesterday. But you have no idea what ever what goes
> through the mind of a silver haired hawk. You know only to grab a handy
> slogan that you can shout in front of your private Amen chorus.

I don't give a damn if you are a "hawk" or not. If you are
advocating killing a lot of people, ours and theirs, for
bullshit reasons then you are advocating evil and I will loudly
and persistently say so.

- samantha



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