Re: FWD (ExT) Re: Another Hypothesis - Legality of "Black Ops"

From: Terry W. Colvin (fortean1@mindspring.com)
Date: Thu Jan 16 2003 - 19:40:18 MST


"Kevin P. France" wrote:
>
> From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" <leonard@cleavelin.net>
> > >Why is this allowed? Because when an open society has totalitarian
> > >enemies, their best sources of intelligence on open societies' defenses
> > >is those societies own free press and other open media sources. During
> > >the Cold War, a large fraction of the USSR's intelligence budget was
> > >comprised of subscriptions to western publications, everything from the
> > >NY Times to Aviation Week & Space Technology (known in our own Defense
> > >establishment as "Aviation Leak").
> >
> > "Aviation Leak and Spy Technology", according to a USAF major who was a
> > classmate and good friend of mine when I was doing my master's....
>
> This is also true in reverse. The largest catagory of data analyzed by the
> CIA is open-source (books, newspapers, and broadcast television). Just
> because a regime is totalitarian doesn't mean everything published or
> allowed to be published is a bald-faced lie. Some local newspaper in
> Lithuania doing a story about a local sailor being promoted and shipping off
> for a few weeks on his destroyer isn't likely to be heavily censored. If
> they run a story about a cave in at an important mine shutting it down for a
> couple of months, that could have implications for national production. A
> lot of things simply can't be hidden by press censorship. Does anyone
> seriously think that even if the government in the US squashed all stories
> about the union/management problems with the dockworkers in California that
> no one would clue into the fact that ships aren't being unloaded here?

Below is a list of the current (as of 1995) FBIS (Foreign Broadcast
Information Service) collection sites. Local national native speakers
translated selected bits of information from magazines, newspapers, radio,
and television. For example, in 1981-84, at SSO Panama we received about
300 to 500 FBIS messages daily, all unclassified. These were edited and
often cited in outgoing classified messages.

FBIS global sites:
FBIS ABIDJAN IV (Ivory Coast)
FBIS AMMAN JO (Jordan)
FBIS ASUNCION PA (Paraguay)
FBIS BANGKOK TH (Thailand)
FBIS CHIVA CHIVA PM (Panama)
FBIS HONG KONG HK (Hong Kong)
FBIS ISLAMABAD PK (Pakistan)
FBIS KEY WEST FL (Florida)
FBIS LONDON UK (United Kingdom)
FBIS MBABANE WZ (Swaziland)
FBIS NICOSIA CY (Cyprus)
FBIS OKINAWA JA (Japan)
FBIS RESTON VA (Virginia)
FBIS SEOUL KOR (South Korea)
FBIS TEL AVIV IS (Israel)
FBIS VIENNA AU (Austria)
STORAGE CENTER FBIS WASHINGTON DC

One did exist in Tokyo in the 1980s!

Terry

P.S.: (a la Frank Piccione) The Message Address Directory (MAD) in 1995:
NAV DET RAMASUN TH
NAV DET UDORN RTAFB TH

P.S.S.: World Navies Today: U.S. Army <
http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/usa/army.htm >

=======================

RULPSEL/FBIS CHIVA CHIVA PN
RUTLAAA/FBIS WASHINGTON DC
RUEOEHA/USCINCSO QUARRY HTS PN
RUDOMKB/FBIS LONDON UK
RULGSAD/COMNAVFORCARIB ROOSEVELT ROADS PR
RUCLAKA/CDR4THPSYOPGROUP FT BRAGG NC
RULPAFA/USAFSO/DOI HOWARD AFB PN
RULPAFA/NAVSTA PANAMA CANAL RODMAN PN
RULPAFA/1 SOW/DEPLOYED/HOWARD AFB PN
RUEORMA/CDR 470 MI GP COROZAL PN
RULPAKA/CDR 193D INF BDE FT CLAYTON PN
RUEBHAA/STORAGE CENTER FBIS WASHINGTON DC
RUEBFGA/VOA WASHINGTON DC
RUEBSAB/CDR LABEL CERRO MTT TRUJILLO HO
RUDORRA/USNMR SHAPE BE//SURVEY SECTION//
RUEOAJO/NAVOPINTCEN SUITLAND MD
RUEKJCS/DIA WASHINGTON DC
RUSMGIP/NAVSECGRUACT GALETA ISLAND PN
RULGVGA/USCOMSOLANT
RUWTFTA/COMUSFORCARIB KEY WEST FL
RUCLPNA/PANAMA CANAL COMMISSION BALBOA PN
RUEHZP/AMEMBASSY PANAMA CITY PN
RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHINGTON DC
RHFQAAA/HQ USAFE RAMSTEIN AB GE
RUESFB/FBIS ASUNCION PA
RUTWSDF/FBIS KEY WEST FL
RUCIPVA/AFOSI DISTRICT 7 PATRICK AFB FL
RUDHRRQ/CDRUSAFLDSTA GALETA ISLAND PN
ZEN/PDG COROZAL PN [CIA]

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"Terry W. Colvin" wrote:
>
> FEBUS is actually FBIS (Foreign Broadcast Information Service) which has
> about a dozen open source collection sites around the globe, including one
> in Bangkok. Off the top of my head others are in Tokyo, Nicosia (Cyprus),
> Vienna, and Chiva Chiva (Panama).
>
> Bamford's book _The Puzzle Palace_ published in 1983 was the earliest
> lengthy expose of the NSA, military collection commands and processes,
> and organization of the material collected.
>
> Terry

Try Googling on routing indicators such as "RUEALGX" or "RUEKJCS" to retrieve
several mildly interesting messages.

Terry

P.S.: An example of a FBIS message I found on the net -

Greek Authorities Said Fear CIA 'Black Ops,' Expect 17N To Suspend Activity

GMP20010926000034

Athens To Vima tis Kiriakis in Greek
23 Sep 01 p A23

[Report by Dh. Nikolakopoulos: "CIA and FBI 'Black Ops' in Greece"]

[FBIS Translated Text]
FBIS - Foreign Broadcast Information Service

The CIA and the FBI will be free to organize black ops (assassinations
included), as well as assassinations, throughout the world (including
Greece.) Their target would be to hunt down, arrest, and transport
members of terrorist groups (like "17 November") to Washington to stand
trial. In their opinion, these groups are acting against US national
security and interests. These ops can be conducted without the knowledge
of our country's authorities, despite the counter-terrorism agreement
signed between the United States and Greece.

Government executives believe that such a development is a real possibility
for the following two reasons:

The first is US President Bush's decision to lift--within the context of
the US Government's measures for the country's protection from
terrorism--the presidential decree that was signed on 4 December 1981 by
then US President Reagan and which barred CIA activity abroad, mainly as
far as the
assassinations of foreign people and leaders were concerned. The second
is Greece's designation by the US services as a country with intense
terrorist activity, mainly against the US interests. This is something
that can be seen in official State Department annual reports on terrorism.

The prospect of the CIA organizing "black ops" in Greece deeply concerns
the Greek Government. The government was under intense pressure to
proceed to immediate arrests of people that the US secret services merely
suspected of being 17N members, even before the terrorist attack on New
York's twin towers. It goes without saying that the US authorities did
not have the evidence required to take them to court. US secret service
officials openly threatened in the past to make use of the classified
directive that became effective in January 1986 under Reagan, allowing the
CIA and the FBI to arrest terrorists abroad and transport them to the
United States to stand trial.

The conduct of joint operations by the antiterrorist squad and the FBI to
apprehend members of the "17N" is today one of the conditions of the
counter-terrorism agreement signed between the United States and Greece.
This agreement in a way "legitimized" similar operations in the past,
designed to infiltrate the terrorist groups through the selling of weapons
and explosives--even though these operations ended up in fiascoes.
Furthermore, investigations took place in the houses of people suspected of
terrorist activity.

Notwithstanding, government executives cannot even fathom that the US
secret services would organize on Greek soil unilateral "black ops," or
even the murders of individuals thought--or even proved--to be members of
terrorist groups. "Such a development would be disastrous for the
democratic institutions and protection of the citizens' individual rights,"
a government executive told To Vima. He admits, however, that following
Black Tuesday in the United States, everything concerning the 17N
investigations has changed drastically.

The new developments, in conjunction with the need to guarantee the
security of the 2004 Olympic Games--nobody doubts that the pressure will
become more intense in the future--are affecting the Greek Government's
decision to close the "domestic front" of terrorism at all cost. This
means that 17N must either be disbanded or forced to suspend its activity.

Government executives believe that a possible reappearance of 17 November
would become today a "hammering ram" against our country. They are
apprehensive, however, of the authorities' ability to achieve immediate
results, namely to arrest and take to court members of the 17 November
group. Despite this, the investigations have produced important evidence
that can bring about specific results in the fight against terrorism.
"17N is not likely today to operate as it did in the past," they stress.

They Expect a 17N Proclamation

The Public Order Ministry officials are eagerly expecting the next
proclamation by 17 November, in which the group will be expressing its view
on the terrorist attack of 11 September on New York and the Pentagon.
They believe that this proclamation will be the first clear indication of
whether the 17N will follow--even under different circumstances--the
example of European terrorist groups like the RAF and suspend its
activity--at least temporarily.

[Description of Source: Athens To Vima tis Kiriakis in Greek --
Left-of-Center Weekly newspaper; Sunday edition of "To Vima"]

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