RE: About "rights" again (was RE: Disbelieving in belief - a variant

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Sun Jan 12 2003 - 19:37:45 MST


Mike writes

> Lee Corbin wrote:
> > Was that a psychological necessity for them? If instead they
> > had abandoned belief in natural rights and a Divine Approval,
> > would they have been able to pull it off? (You see, I believe
> > natural rights to be fictitious entities, and suppose instead
> > that only legal rights actually exist, and that these exist
> > only in a social contract---as Charles was saying.)
>
> The meme they were competing with was the Divine Right of Kings.
> So it wasn't just a psychological necessity for them--it was a
> memetic necessity for mindshare.

What is mindshare? There is some other -----share that is just
on the tip of my tongue, but not quite there, so I probably know
what you mean. But perhaps you could say a bit more.

You are claiming it was necessary to propagate the meme "rights
are from nature and nature's God", or else lose out? That's what
I meant to ask before.

Lee

> Where does the DRoK originate?
> I'd put it back at least as far as "In Hoc Signo Vincit"--Constantine's
> claimed vision-leading-to-conversion in which he saw a blazing cross
> in the sky and was told by the Christian God to whup the heathen butt.
> I'm not sure if he saw the words in Latin or the Greek equivalent, or
> if he made the whole thing up as great PR.
>
> I kind of think the whole (monotheistic-) God & country thing has all
> been downhill from the time Constantine started doing his thing. Kill
> for Christ. Now there's a meme that has worked overtime.
>
> MMB
>
> PS: I seem to have been using a lot of Latin lately.
> The above means "In this sign I conquer".
> He had all his men-in-arms paint it on their vestments and shields.
> I'm told they made a lasting impression.
>



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