From: J Corbally (icorb@indigo.ie)
Date: Mon Jan 06 2003 - 13:49:01 MST
>Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 08:27:30 -0800
>From: "Lee Corbin" <lcorbin@tsoft.com>
>Subject: RE: Consistency, rhetoric, etc., was Re: Terror and pity
>Damien paraphrases my remarks about cattle by the
>substitution of the term "the Irish". You sons
>and daughters of Eire out there can tell him what
>you think of this.
Actually, I think the implication in your statement says it better than we
could :)
> > > "The Irish are better off being bred and slaughtered than
> > > they would be if the British didn't bother raising them.
> > > I ask only that they be treated well before they're killed,
> > > and the killing be done as painlessly as possible. It will
> > > be a sad day for the Irish race when people no longer
> > > want to eat them."
>I have always clearly maintained that people are to
>be accorded special status. Besides, your implied
>history would be screwed up. The British never
>"raised" the Irish, they merely conquered them
>and began denying them their freedom.
I'm sure Damien's aware of that. Besides, even if they had, they'd have
realised they screwed up royally and chucked us all into the sea :)
>But let's suppose that your history were accurate, and
>that the British had given birth to the Irish race for
>the express purpose of eating them. Now we would agree
>that it would have been better for the British to have
>simply created the Irish with no strings attached.
>Absolutely true. Fine. That's granted.
Yep.
>But suppose we ask of a certain Terrence O'Reilly:
>On the whole, taken as a package, was it good or
>bad for you that this happened?
>You see the logic of my argument. It is not rocket
>science. What is it about it that bothers you so?
>(Besides that it "smacks" of this or that.)
>Can there not be a logical argument that supports
>your point of view with respect to a real, particular
>person? Or must your feelings and intuitions remain
>logically unarticulated? And you're not alone; I'm
>sure that there are millions who believe just as you do.
>Lee
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and
crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures
to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid."
-Q, Star Trek:TNG episode 'Q Who'
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