Re: Beyond The Beyond

Max M (
Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:50:20 +0100

Well i can hardly believe my own eyes here. What is this talk? What
happened to "self organisation in a chaotic systems?"

We don't need a overall design for this thing. What we need is a Technical
design guide for how to submit construcions, ideas, artwork etc. All we
need is an URL and a ftp adress. Then everybody can do their own stuff. Let
the good old competition decide who makes the best stuff. Lets have
competition. (Well ok maybe we can't make competitions about what art is
best. But in a subjective way we can. At least we can discuss it one the
list. Somebody wants to do a 3D IRC chatchannel? Let'm roll their own.)
Max More is completely right in saying that the biggest problem in a task
like this is that we can get no pay, and that we work at different paces. I
to have a LOT of experience in zero finance projects. The only way they can
work is if there is some kind of personal gain. (Artistic or financial) If
the financial gain is out of the loop, then it is almost impossible to get
somebody to work for free on one's own pet project. We all wanna do our own

We need to build a completely open system that we all can modify at our own
will. (well as much as possible.) The documentation should be there. Design
guides, technical limitations etc. But no overall design. With sections and
stuff. They will come automatically.

Let the beyond live it's own life.

I could do cool VRML stuff today, maybe i could later add music, sound
effects and so on. (What about a 4Dimensional version of "LIFE" with a
sound for when a cell dies and another when it is born. That could look
cool and make interresting sounds. with 3D balls(or pyramids) shifting
around in 3D space thru a 4th dimension. Whenever all the cells had died
new ones could be generated randomly.) Well just an idea :-)

What we are designing is a social system. Let's use as many "off the shelf"
tools as possible. Moore's law tells us that they'll soon be wery

All we need to do is to establish an absolute minimum of rules that will
allow os to do it. Then we can do it and make our own dreams come thru.
They will probably match each other nicely.

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