Re: THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BOX

Ian Goddard (igoddard@erols.com)
Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:41:31 -0500


At 11:51 AM 11/13/96 -0600, Ira Brodsky wrote:

> Two days ago you asked me not to "reply or bother to draw me into
> further debate." Please note the above was not addressed to you.

IAN: When I post to a public list, in reply to a given person, by
doing so, I inherently invite any member to respond to my post.

>>IAN: Let's be optimistic: we're getting heaps of more govt, but heck,
>>govt is great, let's have more, why be such a anti-govt pessimistic
>>party pooper, join the happy govt club.

>Since you previously accused me of using ad hominem arguments, I think it
>is fair for me to point out that you are now resorting to "straw man"
>tactics. I have never advocated "more government." In fact, my advocacy
>of significantly less government is documented in two books and dozens of
>articles.

IAN: I'm using examples, analogy, to try to explain what it seems
"optimism" has to do with the inquiry into who shotdown TWA 800,
which was necessitated to the degree it was unclear why you
inserted the word into the debate.

>>It seems to be a universal tactic all over the internet that those who
>>want to pooh-pooh the Navy TWA 800 theory are actually assuming to score
>>points against the theory by suggesting that those who broach the theory
>>are saying "here's what really happened." Yet in fact I've yet to see
>>someone, with perhaps the exception of Salinger, say that.
>
>
> Nonsense. The message "forwarded by Peter James" and posted to this forum
> stated "TWA flight 800 was SHOT DOWN by a US NAVY AEGIS MISSILE." When I
> expressed skepticism about this statement, you accused me of denying that
> TWA Flight 800 could have been downed by a *missile*, which is also not
> what I said.

IAN: Well, yes, "the internet document" is the one case, and Salinger
to a strong degree -- but it was anonymous. Your right, I previously
erred in my suggestion that you discounted the missile theory, and
I acknowledged my error and said I was sorry weeks ago. I hope
there's no hard feelings.

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