Re: The Extropian Principles

Max More (
Wed, 14 Aug 1996 20:14:19 -0700 (MST)

At 06:27 PM 8/14/96 +0100, Sarah Marr wrote:
>>Sarah: You raise a good point. However -- no, I am not defining S.O. on the
>>basis of its desirability from an extropic point of view.
>Then how can you say: 'Spontaneously ordering processes can produce results
>themselves are inimical to spontaneous order.' Surely a spontaneously
>ordering process will result in a spontaneous order, otherwise it wouldn't
>be a spontaneously ordering process. Can you give me an example where this
>isn't the case, with no intervening process which is not spontaneously

Where I think you're going wrong here is in thinking that a spontaneously
ordering process can only give rise to other spontaneously ordering
processes. Why should that be the case? A process can give rise to effects
that are not examples of that process. As an example: The market is a
spontaneous order. It produces certain structures in the market, like
corporations, that are not themselves spontaneously ordering processes.
Corporations, typically, are designed orders. They are deliberately
structured by human beings.

Upward and Outward!


Max More, Ph.D.
President: Extropy Institute (ExI)
Editor: Extropy