Re: Y is it so? And will sex for fun survive?

kalib g. kersh (
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:14:27 -0800

I am aware of the impact on short-term memory that mdma has, though I have _never_ heard of someone completely forgetting a conversation, due to its effects. Was your (James Roger's) explanation memorable? Do your friends care what you say usually? Those that do use it say that the benefits are well worth it.

I wish that people who don't use mdma would accept that the ones that do think the costs are justified and are going to continue to use it until the DEA has clamped down on every last molecule of mdma in the universe.

Perhaps all of the NIH funded study money might be better spent investigating *why* people use mdma? its powerful heroin-like addictiveness? its lugubrious mind-numbing properties? the way it makes people who use it appear cool to others?

Glad to hear some more thoughts on this. If I remember to check my email.



Kalib:>>the Non-Stick Sound System

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 21:42:07   eugene.leitl wrote:

>From: James Rogers <>
>On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Octavio Rojas Diaz wrote:
>> well to change the topic I think that love pills already exists (MDMA
>> and it's analogues) unfortunately it has some side effects, and it's
>> believed that chronic use can lead to neuronal damage although no
>> conclusive data has been show of it's neurotoxicity on humans,
>> unfortunately these kind of drugs are ilegal and research is prohibited,
>> but fortunately MDMA and analogues action is similar to some serotonin
>> affecting antidepressants, and I hope further research leaves to safer
>> and more effective drugs.
>I am not a doctor, nor an expert on the subject, but I do have a couple
>friends that have used MDMA extensively. There is one apparent
>side-effect that is common to them that may or may not be from heavy MDMA
>usage, although it is not readily obvious unless you interact with them
>They have extremely poor short-term memory, much worse than I have ever
>seen in a normal person. We have speculated in the past that it was
>from heavy usage of MDMA and its analogs. They did not always have this
>problem, which is why we attributed it to drug use (MDMA specifically
>because we had heard that it could cause these types of problems).
>But as I said, I am no expert on the subject; I am just reporting what
>I and others have noticed. By "poor" short-term memory, I mean that I
>could spend an hour helping them go over some subject matter, and the next
>day they would not remember that they had even talked to me about it.
>Long-term memory seems fine, though.
>-James Rogers
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