Re: AI

Clinton O'Dell (
Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:35:40 -0800

This is weird. I haven't received any of these responses.

Rob, I'm sure we were discussing what if an AI decide that it was best if we humans died. This is a moral philosophy because what is best is a subjective idea. If you changed the topic I wasn't aware of it, appears I don't get all mail.

I'm sure you did indeed say noone has any idea how to make a computer conscious, to see your point try defining a definition for intelligence, etc.. I deleted that post though and I don't feel like digging through the archives. I'm just going to drop it.

Clint O'Dell

> Rob wrote:
> >> If this AI is instead a purely rational master
> problem solver, then
> humanity will surely disagree with much of its
> philosophical output too.
> Clint wrote:
> >There is no such thing as objective morality, and
> don't try to tell me you
> were talking about philosophy when its obvious
> you're talking about
> philosophical >morality. What "should" be done is
> always subjective because
> it begins what one "feels" it should be.
> Rob responded:
> I was talking about philosophy. I have absolutely no
> interest in
> entertaining the possibility of "objective
> morality". This is an American
> preoccupation, born out of an insanely inflated
> society-wide
> self-righteousness. I am not American, and there is
> no objective morality -
> it's a ridiculous proposition.
> Rob wrote:
> >> thinking about constructing a solid definition
> for "intelligence", then
> think about how you might program a computer to
> posess this quality, and
> what use it would >> be.
> Clint wrote:
> > This is a very BAD BAD way to go. Instead work on
> making it self-aware.
> Consciousness has NOTHING to do with intelligence.
> Many people consider
> > me several times more intelligent than most of my
> peers, does that make me
> more conscious than them?
> Rob responded:
> I was proposing thinking about the implications and
> benefits of making a
> computer "intelligent" to try and wash out some of
> the AI drivel that keeps
> being bounced around the place. I did not mention
> consciousness - it has
> nothing to do with my point.

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