Re: Crocker's Rules (WAS: Women, fire...)

phil osborn (
Sat, 09 Oct 1999 21:28:46 PDT

>From: "Bryan Moss" <>
>To: <>
>Subject: Re: Crocker's Rules (WAS: Women, fire...)
>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999
21:54:34 +0100
>Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
> > > Politeness exists for a reason, and I believe that denying it is
> > > going to impose costs which could have been avoided.
> >
> > I would phrase it "politeness /evolved/ for good reasons", with which
> > I agree. So did pain. That doesn't mean we can't transcend both.
>The correct phrase would be simply, "politeness evolved".
Politeness is NOT the same thing as PC, BTW. Politeness is when you take care to make sure that you haven't assumed something that the other person didn't intend to mean. That you read before you reply. That you don't misquote or partially quote in such a way as to give an incorrect impression as to the other person's original communication. Etc.

Pain and related feelings exist for very good reasons, and I suspect that it is impossible for a consciousness to experience pleasure and not be capable of pain.

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