Re: Socialism <> Extropianism (Was Re: The Education Function)

Alejandro Dubrovsky (
Fri, 11 Dec 1998 03:16:15 +1000 (GMT+1000)

On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Terry Donaghe wrote:

> >(2) 'Property' does not actually exist and is merely a way of saying
> 'Idenyyou access to this'.
> This is blatant nonsense. It's like saying love does not exist. Your
> entire argument suffers because of this.

Point (2) is, AFAIK, the central assumption on which all communistic thought is based on. To dismiss this as blatant nonsense is to dismiss communism as blatant nonsense. Any rational defense of socialism when this happens is tricky. Do you have any stronger arguments on why point 2 is incorrect, or even better, a proof that property is anything but the denial of control to others? At the initial conditions of a system, how do you assign property to the property holders? Who is entitled to property? How is property acquired? What property does a new player have?
Alejandro Dubrovsky