Re: The Education Function

Terry Donaghe (
Thu, 10 Dec 1998 05:36:05 +1100 (EST)

---Samael <> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Lorrey <>
> To: <>
> Date: 08 December 1998 19:39
> Subject: Re: The Education Function
> >If a society cannot trust the individual, how can it trust a group of
> >individuals? I can always trust myself to look out for me, and you
> trust
> >yourself to look out for you. I cannot always trust you to look out
for me,
> >especially when our interests are in conflict. Applying this
principle to
> one
> >thing and not another is hypcritical. Applying it to technology, or
> >social/cultural issues, but not to economic relationships reflects
a lack
> of
> >integrity which I find disturbing, and untrustworthy.
> Because, like most ideals, the system breaks down under certain
> circumstances.
> Take, as an example, garbage collection. Everyone has garbage.
None of us
> want it cluttering up our kitchens. We coul set things up so that
each of
> us pays a small fee to have out rubbish picked up. but some people
> decline to pay. Now their rubbish is affecting me. Should I pay
for their
> rubbish to be removed? Or should we force them to pay gfor their
rubbish to
> be removed? Or just have their steaming piles of decomposing filth
> in the middle of the street?
> Another example: Neonatology - medicine as applied to babies.
> A baby is born with a defect. the baby is a person. It has no
income and
> no resources. Should it's parents be forced to pay for it, even if
> can't, even if they don't want to? Should it be asked for a credit
> number when it's born?
> Just two problems that pure libertarian capitalism has problems with.
> I agree that Libertarian Capitalism works in 90% of all cases and
that it
> should eb left to do so as much as is physically possible. But no
> works 100% of the time.
> Samael
Libertarian/Free Market capitalism promises no cures to anything. What it does promote is lack of government coercion. Any service that government provides (such as what you list above), no matter how well intended, must be funded. Governments realize that people don't just give them money, so governments fall back on coerced theft. That's right. Taxation is equivalent to violence. If you don't pay, eventually you will be met with force.

Libertarians believe (and humanists and transhumanists and extropians as well) that social/political goals should not be achieved by use of violence or force. Taxation is a form of violence or force and therefore is inconsistent with libertarian, etc. views.

If you would like to defend taxation as a nonviolent act, I am interested in your arguements.



Terry Donaghe:
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