Re: Full Auto? Notto. (was Re: look out! long haired gun loons)
michael k teehan (miketeehan@worldnet.att.net)
Fri, 19 Dec 1997 19:38:10 -0500
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> From: Michael Lorrey <retroman@together.net>
> To: extropians@extropy.com
> Subject: Re: Full Auto? Notto. (was Re: look out! long haired gun loons)
> Date: Friday, December 19, 1997 7:04 PM
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> Michael M. Butler wrote:
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> > At 12:55 PM 12/19/97 -0800, you wrote:
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> > >From: Wayne Hayes <wayne@cs.toronto.edu>
> > >
> > >Fully
> > >>automatic weapons are almost non-existent in Canada (outside the
> > >>military), and I suspect the same is true for most of Western
> > >>Europe. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
> > >
> > >Fully automatic weapons have been illegal to the average U.S.
> > >citizen since the 1930's.
> >
> > Not quite, although that was the intent: average persons who wish to
> > acquire a fully-automatic firearm have to pay a $200 tax for each
> > firearm, get a local LEO to state in writing that he doesn't mind, go
> > through full fingerprinting and a serious background check, and
> > (typically) wait up to six months--sometimes to be told at the end of
> > that time that the application has been denied.
> >
> > I guess anyone who can go through that gauntlet may indeed not qualify
> > for the appellation "average". :}
> >
> > That's federal; there are different laws in different states. For
> > example, in California it's virtually impossible to get a legal
> > full-auto unless you are a special-effects supplier to Hollywood such
> > as Stembridge.
> >
> > As an aside, since the US ban on new manufacture, rumor has it that
> > movie companies sometimes hire machinists to build full-autos for a
> > scene, shoot the scene and then destroy the weapons, all in flagrant
> > violation of the law, just because THE WORLD (not just the USA) wants
> > its shoot-em-up entertainment louder and nastier all the time.
> > *Sigh*...
>
> THere also is not a ban on manufacture of full auto machine guns. A guy
> I know is a federal automatic weapons dealer and manufacturer. Like a
> carry permit, it requires a full background check, etc. and is a higher
> fee, around $600. I've ripped off a few thousand rounds with him a
> couple of times. He sells almost exclusively to law enforcement
> agencies.
>
> --
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