Re: USA collapse (was: why a gun)

CountZero (hjulien@ne.uswest.net)
Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:12:50 -0600


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Michael Lorrey wrote:

> Hal Finney wrote:
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> snipp...
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> Where does this leave us? Well, the government has yet to get it through
> its thick skull that the world has changed, that it can no longer be the
> big bully it has been for a large part of this century. Because of this,
> everytime a citizen gets up and stands on his or her rights, and backs
> them up with personal force, the government treats that person like an
> enemy of the people that either needs to be reeducated or destroyed.
> THis is creating a vicious cycle of resistance and repression that
> replicates the sort of practices advocated by revolutionary manuals read
> by leftist terrorists and guerrillas around the world. The object of
> such practices is to advocate repressive policies. THis ticks off a
> small, nutty percentage of the population, which actively resists and is
> widely publicized by the government media organs to justify the
> enactment of even more repressive policies, which causes more
> resistance, and so on and so on until you are left with either a fascist
> government, or civil war.
>
> Government cannot help itself in this system, it is built to protect
> itself, discourage competition, and perpetuate and grow its power and
> reach. It is an unintelligent collection of self perpetuating memes, and
> unless a leader able to inspire enlightened thought is able to wake the
> electorate up as to the cycle that is being bred, this cycle will
> degenerate to chaos or darkness. This is the difficult thing, for such
> individuals through history have typically been corrupted by power just
> enough to take advantage of the situation to attain empire. We are in a
> post republican death spiral, that will either end in corporate
> dissolution, corrupt transformation to empirical fascism, or enlightened
> transformation into a state the likes of which has yet to be seen in
> history.
>
> --
> TANSTAAFL!!!
> Michael Lorrey
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> mailto:retroman@together.net Inventor of the Lorrey Drive
> MikeySoft: Graphic Design/Animation/Publishing/Engineering
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> How many fnords did you see before breakfast today?

I'd have to say both as an extropian and a gun owner the Mike is probably
dangerously close to being right.
The major hope that I have is the runaway DELTA(tech) will overwhelm
the darker possibilities.

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Michael Lorrey wrote:

Hal Finney wrote:
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snipp...
>

Where does this leave us? Well, the government has yet to get it through
its thick skull that the world has changed, that it can no longer be the
big bully it has been for a large part of this century. Because of this,
everytime a citizen gets up and stands on his or her rights, and backs
them up with personal force, the government treats that person like an
enemy of the people that either needs to be reeducated or destroyed.
THis is creating a vicious cycle of resistance and repression that
replicates the sort of practices advocated by revolutionary manuals read
by leftist terrorists and guerrillas around the world. The object of
such practices is to advocate repressive policies. THis ticks off a
small, nutty percentage of the population, which actively resists and is
widely publicized by the government media organs to justify the
enactment of even more repressive policies, which causes more
resistance, and so on and so on until you are left with either a fascist
government, or civil war.

Government cannot help itself in this system, it is built to protect
itself, discourage competition, and perpetuate and grow its power and
reach. It is an unintelligent collection of self perpetuating memes, and
unless a leader able to inspire enlightened thought is able to wake the
electorate up as to the cycle that is being bred, this cycle will
degenerate to chaos or darkness. This is the difficult thing, for such
individuals through history have typically been corrupted by power just
enough to take advantage of the situation to attain empire. We are in a
post republican death spiral, that will either end in corporate
dissolution, corrupt transformation to empirical fascism, or enlightened
transformation into a state the likes of which has yet to be seen in
history.

--
TANSTAAFL!!!
                        Michael Lorrey
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mailto:retroman@together.net    Inventor of the Lorrey Drive
MikeySoft: Graphic Design/Animation/Publishing/Engineering
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How many fnords did you see before breakfast today?

  I'd have to say both as an extropian and a gun owner the Mike is probably
 dangerously close to being right.
  The major hope that I have is the runaway DELTA(tech) will overwhelm
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