Re: Entropy/Order Coexpansion

Michael Lorrey (
Sat, 29 Nov 1997 08:00:27 -0500

Twink wrote:
> At 11:24 AM 11/28/97 +0100, Anders Sandberg <> wrote:
> >> Another intriguing possibility in an open universe is that entropy and
> >> order can both increase -- in absolute NOT relative amounts.:) This
> >> is Layzer's idea. He might be wrong, but we should see if there's
> >> anything to his idea.
> >
> >I think it sounds reasonable. Divide the universe into two sides, and
> >use one as an entropy dump. If it gets too "hot", wait for a while
> >until it has expanded, and then fump more entropy into it. Of course,
> >I suppose this would run into the NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) effect
> >on a cosmic scale.... :-)

This is the premise behind L.E. Modesitt's SF/Fantasy Recluce series. In
it, physics as we know it are warped a bit in that chaos and order are
recognized "magical" forces that people can sense, and some can
psychically manipulate. This leads to White (chaos) and Black (order)
magicians. Naturally the chaos wizards are the bad guys.

How would one go about constructing an entropy pump???

			Michael Lorrey
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