Mars terraformation is a crystal idea

Alex Tseng (
Sun, 9 Nov 1997 17:47:14 -0800 (PST)

Thanks for taking the time to reply my mail.....Micheal Lorrey
I'm definitely like the idea of comets divertion and its usage
to terraform planets like Mars,...
Once there is sufficient CO2 in Mars' atmosphere, is that
the time to seed the martian soil with artificially engineered plants
and does that have consequence on the atmospheric pressure
and temperature again....( I thought if CO2 is converted to O2
the temperature would drop again,...the greenhouse fades.....
so drop a few more comets,...?! more water and CO2 and
the process continues until a saturation point where there
is the right mixture ( earth-proportion ) of gases....hey hey hey
...or at least of fitter extropian-minded (post)-humans to live on
...i.e our future generations....
Is there anyone on the list working on artificial engineered plants
these range to also encompass very large trees that can be grow
on comets to take us out of the solar system....ever heard of those
Dysonian proposals...?
Are there also other materials that are as rad as buckyballs
and hows the progress on buckyball manufacturing?
Anyone care to contribute
Long Live the transhuman well
Alex Tseng

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---Michael Lorrey wrote:
> Alex Tseng wrote:
> >
> > Earth/Moon relaionship
> > has become iron crytsal core
> > Cor!!,..progress !!!
> >
> > What is the implications of Earth
> > having an iron crystal core, which
> > exists with some other impurities
> > as a 'whole' lattice, is it another
> > target for mega-engineering projects ?
> I doubt it. You don't dig up the foundation to your building just
> because its nice and solid.
> >
> > Are there future projects been prepared
> > to confirm its existance,...
> >
> > Hey, what about the buckyball factory
> > in Geosyn orbit,...Do you guys follow
> > NASA / JPL ...? Landing a probe on a comet
> > this time,.. good start, how about using
> > comets as platforms out of the solar system
> > or land a comet on Mars to terraform ?!
> Oh, now your getting into my favorite subjects...To anyone interested
> terraforming Mars, I suggest you read Kim Stanley Robinson's _Red_Mars_
> trilogy, which is possibly the most scientifically realistic view of
> mars terraforming I've ever seen.
> Essentially, it is thought that there is enough CO2 in the poles and un
> the rocks that if the atmosphere could be heated up a bit, it would
> automatically cause a process of outgassing that would raise Mars'
> atmosphere up to a level of between 300-500 millibars, almost all CO2.
> THis is equivalent to atmospheric pressure in Lhasa, Tibet.
> At this level, greenhouse effects would raise the average equatorial
> temperatures to around 50 deg F. It is not known how much water there
> on Mars, but it is thought from current data that there is enough to
> fill the northern hemisphere with a 1 million sq kilometer ocean with
> average depth of 100 feet or so, at the above cited atmospheric temps
> and pressures. In order to make this atmosphere livable without oxygen
> masks, we would need to seed the planet with engineered plantlife. This
> oxygen conversion will of course reduce the greenhouse effects, thus
> cooling the planet, unless we replace the lost CO2 with other
> gasses, like CFCs, methane, etc. It is doubtful that there was enough
> a period of lifebuilding on mars in the past (if the current evidence
> supporting such life is confirmed), to provide adequate fossil fuel
> resources, so all energy will come from solar or nuclear power
> It has been proposed that if somewhere between 2-5 comets were dropped
> on mars, this would provide the necessary heat, additional gasses for
> accelerated pressurization, and additional greenhouse gasses to
> a stable atmosphere, with a later need for production of CFCs at a
> level of between 5-10% of current terran production.
> As for exploration of comets, its a needed mission. As the Huyakutake
> and Hale-Bopp comets showed us, there are plenty of objects out there
> that are undiscovered that could show up at any moment. if we are to
> come up with concrete plans to divert earth intercepting objects we
> to know exactly how such objects are built so we know whether to use
> nuclear explosives or land nuclear thrusters, etc. We also need to do
> the same with asteroids of the near earth variety. This precautionary
> program would then be the harbinger of an asteroid mining industry.
> As for NASA and JPL, well, they do good work, but, dammit, they are
> substituting manned exploration with VIDEO GAMES!!! I think its
> BS of the highest magnitude that we are putting up with the current
> "smaller, faster, cheaper, less imaginative, less risky" program. Then
> again its about time people saw how incompetent big government programs
> are at exploration.
> BUckyballs? I think that once we get buckytubes made in sufficient
> lengths to weave with to make Fuller forms, we can then start thinking
> about mega scale projects. Is anyone on the list working with the
> tubes????
> --
> Michael Lorrey
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