Re: Transparent Society

Lee Daniel Crocker (
Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:19:18 -0800 (PST)

>> I do try to correct impressions when I can, but if someone is
>> content to think I'm an idiot or a jerk based on eir impressions,
>> and doesn't want to hear me argue otherwise, that's eir right,
>> and I just have to live with it.

> That's fine unless the people with the incorrect impressions are
> a judge and a prosecutor...

Good point--I suppose it's not paranoia if they /are/ out to get you.

>> Perhaps Brin's and my discomfort with cypherpunks is only that,
>> but I think it is more: as I said, in my experience, those who
>> attach great value to preventing the spread of information about
>> themselves I find strange. It is not a reasoned judgment, only
>> an emotional reaction, but it is a prejudice that serves me.

> Thank you for explaining this to me, because until now I found
> Brin's stance on these issues to be incomprehensibly extreme.

Just for the record, I find the specifics of Brin's arguments
just as incomprehensibly extreme: distrust of those who value
"privacy" and spreading openness memes is one thing; banning a
communication technology is quite another. Not only irrational
in its goals, but a complete waste of time to even consider as
a possible reality. It makes about as much sense as gun control
or nuclear weapon bans; yeah, let's just pass a law against the
/things/ and pretend that they'll go away, and pay no attention
to the reasons people do evil with those things.

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