Re: The Politics of Dancing

From: Brian D Williams (
Date: Thu Dec 06 2001 - 11:46:22 MST

>From: "Robert J. Bradbury" <>

>I agree with Eliezer that it is probably very difficult to discuss
>the term "Sysop Mind" without anthropocentric biases creeping into
>the discussion. I think even "apexmind" raises feelings of
>uneasiness. A term I can consider comfortably is "intelligent
>substrate". One could look at it as something not dissimilar from
>the current biosphere on the planet. However some, such as
>myself, given the "green goo" that exists, do not view it as
>entirely benign or "fully" supportive. I think the only thing
>that comes remotely close to it would be some concepts of a
>universally "good" god. Since there is no real equivalent in the
>natural world it has to be an artificially created meme -- one
>that our brains are probably not well equipped to hold onto
>without having more familiar metaphors casting shadows onto it.

How about "inherent order" or "inherent emerging order".

>Since the vectors discussed are orthogonal we need a 3D
>graph (or perhaps a space mapping) of the various positions
>similar to that which Max provided for IDENTITY.

A very good idea.


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