Re: WAR: appropriate first use (was: If we do get Afghanistan...)

From: Alejandro Dubrovsky (
Date: Sun Nov 25 2001 - 04:34:02 MST

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:10, Anders Sandberg wrote:
> Well, I did not say democracies can't turn into dictatorships (even
> legally), just that democracies - and here I mean democracies in the
> sense that there is a free press, people do get to hold the
> government accountable and influence it, laws and rights are
> respected and so on - so far have not gone to war against each other.
> There are some borderline cases like the Balkan situation, but if you
> look at the actual level of democracy in Serbia as opposed to the
> formal level of democracy, it is clear that it was not a very
> democratic country.
That's probably because those countries don't exist. (I mean which
country has completely free press? Laws and rights respected by who?)
Also, another democracy clash (not using Anders's tight definition, but
the more common one) would be Ecuador-Peru in the mid-late nineties.


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