Re: Extropian handshake

From: Max More (
Date: Thu Nov 08 2001 - 00:23:15 MST

For the record -- Tom's account seems spot-on to me.

I would only add, that if you're feeling especially exhuberant when doing the extropian handshake, as you thrust your hands upward and outward you can leap upwards as if taking off.

And, yes, I do still do it.



At 10:10 PM 11/7/01, T0Morrow wrote:

Ed Regis got the mechanics largely right, although he left out Dave Krieger's
important admonition, "Thumb on the outside! Thumb on the outside!"  And Ed
didn't describe the most fitting accompanying exhortation: "Forward!" (as
palms contact) "Upward!" (as hands rise) "Outward!" (as hands separate at the

Silly? Very.  But humor played a big role in those early Extropian gatherings
(and no doubt still does, albeit perhaps in better taste and with less
energy).  Some of us even posited a 6th Principle: Earn Fun.

Still, I wouldn't say, as does John:

>I think the handshake originated in the
>eighties, when extropianism was more of a "club" with young members
>thinking a little along the lines of a college fraternity.

I'm not sure what I would have called the early Extropian movement, but I'm
sure I would not have called it a fraternity!

Nor would I say:

>I just can't imagine Max More ever being so youthfully exuberant! ;)   

I, for one, can hardly imagine Max as *not* youthfully exuberant!

T.0. Morrow

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