Re: Where we lost America

From: Mike Lorrey (
Date: Fri Nov 02 2001 - 10:59:55 MST

Samantha Atkins wrote:
> Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
> >
> > > > Hiding behind your absolute relativism dogma doesn't help you. It only
> > > > assures that you are what John Clark says you are. Relativism is the
> > > > last refuge of the indecisive fool.
> > >
> > > I see. If I never change my position in light of more
> > > considerations then I am hidebound and certainly a dogmatist.
> > > If I do then I am an indecive fool. In any case you "win".
> > > This is childish and quite boring.
> >
> > Relativism and non-dogmatism are not the same thing. Dogmatism is
> > holding a position in spite of evidence; relativism is failure to
> > hold a position at all.
> Agreed. And in point of fact, I am not a relativist either.

Ah, the funniest statement I've seen all day. First she declares that
she is not a dogmatist, despite dogmatically clinging to silly beliefs
like that bin Laden and al Qaeda don't really want to kill us despite
their declarations that they do. Then she claims to not be a relativist,
despite repeated and unceasing declarations that we need to understand
those societies better, that they are a religion of peace, despite
muslims holding a near-monopoly on terrorism around the world, and that
we need to change our foreign policies to match what other countries and
societies want, that our society consumes too much, doesn't consider
other cultures enough, etc etc etc....

Samantha is the epitome of the dogmatic relativist.

This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Sat May 11 2002 - 17:44:17 MDT