Re: Re:

From: Robert Coyote (
Date: Thu Oct 25 2001 - 15:34:48 MDT

what happens to the definition of "Arrest" when this indefinite "detention"
is occurring?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis Newstrom" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 1:42 PM
Subject: Re:

: From: "Samantha Atkins" <>
: > Citizens and foreign nationals pulled in in an open sweep on no
: > grounds or very weak grounds or their nationality or the
: > ethnicity or their religion or age and gender or some
: > combination ... are "prisoners of war"? Excuse me?
: >
: What are you calling a "open sweep"? I have only heard of one or two
: picked up in any given location.
: The officials deny pulling anyone in based on ethnicity or religion. They
: say they only picked up people who has a specific connection to the
: terrorists.
: As for "age" and "gender"... I haven't even heard of private citizens
: running around discriminating on the basis of "age" or "gender". The
: inclusion of these in the list makes your complaint look like paranoia,
: rather than a response to what is actually happening.
: > The majority of these people are not even accused of having
: > knowledge but are brought in just in case they do or in order
: > for the government to look like it is doing something, even if
: > it is wrong, morally questionable and very dangerous to human
: > and civil rights. It is up to us to take note and to question.
: Yes, people were picked up and questioned if it was thought that they knew
: something, but about a week ago, Attourny General (Ashcroft) said that the
: only people still in custody are those who have broken the law. Some of
: them are "only" breaking immigration laws, but everyone except criminals
: have been released.
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