From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Wed Oct 24 2001 - 02:27:17 MDT

Randy Smith wrote:
> >From: "Smigrodzki, Rafal" <SmigrodzkiR@MSX.UPMC.EDU>
> >Reply-To:
> >To: "''" <>
> >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:18:32 -0400
> >
> >MIke Lorrey wrote:
> >
> > > THe only thing that bothers me is that there are those who are so
> > > interested in stripping lifelong Americans of more liberties but bristle
> > > at the idea that it is somehow wrong to use sodium pentathol on detained
> > > non-citizen suspects who are known associates of bin Laden and are
> > > refusing to talk.
> >
> >Samantha replied:
> >
> >It is WRONG. Do you belief for a minute that the precedent will
> >not be applied to US citizens suspected of aiding and abetting
> >terrorists? Especially when what that label can be applied to
> >is currently ultra-fuzzy? How about a bit of torture of mere
> >suspects while we are about it? Do you think it is open season
> >on "non-citizens" just because of 9-11? Would you like the same
> >treatment when you go abroad? Would you like this treatment on
> >mere suspicion without legal counsel? The day that the US
> >government uses such methods is the day it becomes my sworn
> >enemy.
> >
> >### There is IMO nothing wrong with narcoanalysis, and no reason why it
> >shouldn't be used to interrogate suspected terrorists, tax evaders,
> >politicians before and after elections, as well as candidates for hire on
> >the police force. I do not see any relationship of this subject to torture.
> >
> >The government should start openly using and popularizing narcoanalysis for
> >public and private use.
> >
> >Rafal
> >

There is nothing wrong with the government forcefully prying
open my mind or yours on the least suspicion of wrong doing or
of withholding information it wishes to acquire? What could be
more a use of force than this? What happened to the 5th
amendment? What happened to privacy? What happened to the
sacrosanct individual? All gone for a little more "security".

- samantha

"Those who would trade a little freedom for a little security
deserve neither and will lose both. " - Benjamin Franklin

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