Re: Immigration

From: Brian D Williams (
Date: Thu Oct 18 2001 - 13:27:01 MDT

>From: Lee Daniel Crocker <>

>> I agree with Robert on the importance and value of immigration,
>> but would separate legal/illegal as to value.

>But that's not having a position on the issue; that's deliberately
>avoiding the issue. "Legal" means nothing but "approved by the
>agents of the majority", so saying that you support legal
>immigration is just saying that whatever the group decides on the
>issue is OK, and you don't have any personal opinion.

Poorly phrased on my part. I do support the right of nations/states
to determine their immigration rules.

>I have a specific position on the issue: if you're here to work,
>welcome. If you're a leech or a criminal, go find a welfare state
>somewhere. Hopefully the US will dismantle enough of its
>entitlement programs and drug price-supports that we will be
>unattractive to leeches and criminals; when that happens,
>completely open borders will be a good thing.

I have a specific position as well. if you're here legally to work
welcome. I do not support illegal immigration.

We agree on entitlements and the (bad) paternalism of government
drug policy. I do not support completely open borders.


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