RE: Big government (Was: Re: Anthrax addendum.)

From: Colin Hales (
Date: Wed Oct 17 2001 - 18:38:43 MDT

> From: "Colin Hales" <>
> > How about....
> > Replaced by pure administration.
> Idealized governments (for example communism), like idealized
> cities (for
> example Brazilia), don't succeed. To succeed, these
> superorganisms need to
> emerge spontaneously.
> See:,,74-2001350094,00.html

Thanks for link. I am familiar with emergence. Solving the travelling
salesman probem by laying down pheromones...great stuff - some years old I

I really don't feel the proposal is an 'idealist' position. As a collective
representation of the will of the people, (being presumably what everyone
intended) - the current system's validity and relevance will, I predict,
simply dwindle because it can and because human nature is what it is.

In this case, local govt would be a prime target for beginnings. Let school
kids decide what colour to paint the WW II memorial - a civics project. Less
onerous decisions done with the new system will get people used to the idea
and build infastructure.

With my business person hat on, I constantly see businesses without decent
strategic management spontaneously forming small internal subgroups with
boundaries. The belief of those within the boundaries is that they are there
to serve the boundary/interface. It's a natural tendency. These entities
have a will of their own and fight change. This is where politicians live
now. When state and federal politicians see their future they will fight
back. I can't wait to hear their compelling arguments for their positions of
privelege and outmoded forum.

In business, after careful analysis, these boundaries are
removed/moved/clarified and responsibilities are defined. It's a do or die

I'd like to see the proposed process started and allowed to find it's own
level....if it works it'll live on...or should I say...emerge.


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