Re: Posthuman Politics

From: Steve Nichols (
Date: Wed Oct 17 2001 - 09:23:19 MDT

Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:33:39 -0700
From: BigBooster <>
Subject: Re: Posthuman Politics

At 12:23 AM 10/17/2001 +0100, wrote:
>the "Law" this is a social convenience and is interpreted for
>>pragmatic reasons ... it is an aspect of politics ... to have any
>>input into the debates about changing various Laws we have
>>to engage with adversaries in political debates and elections.

>I suggest to you that your notion of "law" (so-called) is
>at best a *human* social convenience -- an aspect of
>*human* politics -- and at worst a disastrous human

As a games programmer (and organiser of the World
Chaturanga Championships) I see RULES as essential.
In fact games are defined by having rules that are agreed
amongst the players .... otherwise the games couldn't be
played and we wouln't have any fun!

Laws fortunately are not "set in stone;" unless you
happen to believe in the Ten Commandments or Islamic
Sharia ... so are negotiable amongst "players" in any
democratic societies. If you absolutely can't live with
them, (1) find a country with Laws that suit you better,
(2) go live in the desert by yourself, or (3) try to get the
Laws changed, maybe by joining the Posthuman.Org
global electoral struggle?

>As long as you hallucinate some of the noises and
>scribbles emanating from the mouths and pens of
>*human political cheaters* as "the law" (so-called),
>I will consider you *in this respect* to be at the same
>primitive/backward level as the Vatican, Mormons,
>Baptists, Islam &c.

True, all internal dialogue is auditory hallucination. So what!
If we were all fully enlightened beings their would be
no need for codification of behaviour patterns, but until
then I would prefer to see homocidal maniacs &c.
locked up.

>As long as you think in terms of "changing various Laws,"
>I will consider you *in this respect* to be engaging in
>human politics at the same primitive/backward level
>as the Vatican, Mormons, Baptists, Islam &c.

So you are a complete nihilist and want any type of
behaviour to be allowed? What about property law?
How would business function without commercial
agreements? Sure, it needs reform .... maybe AI
expert-system judges to replace or augment humanoids.

Posthuman Organisation

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