Re: Sentience

From: Michael S. Lorrey (mlorrey@datamann.com)
Date: Wed Dec 20 2000 - 09:05:25 MST


scerir wrote:
>
> > Everything is either deterministic or random.
> > Neither of these, nor any composition of the two,
> > constitute free will.
>
> Penrose says that human "thought"
> must be noncomputable, but may
> still be deterministic.
> He makes the analogy with certain
> tiling patterns, which are noncomputable.
>
> Chaitin shows that some of the deepest
> foundations (of mathematics) are based on
> truths which are purely random.
>
> How are we able to create, perceive,
> experience, choose among these noncomputable
> "truths"?

Easy. Penrose is wrong. Penrose may know tiles. The Penrose tile
patterns on my toilet paper wipe my butt quite nicely, but by the
evidence of his failed 'microtubule' theories, he doesn't know
intelligence or brains well at all.



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