RE: extropians-digest V5 #340

From: Jerry Mitchell (jmitch12@tampabay.rr.com)
Date: Mon Dec 11 2000 - 17:30:52 MST


Im only going to hit on the first paragraph here as an in depth breakdown
would take WAY to long.

>One of the libertarian's favorite slogans is "taxation is theft", but the
counter is "property is theft". Who's right? Depends on your values,
actually.

Property is theft? How can anything be "stolen" from anybody when no-one can
own anything?

>If you think private property is the basis for hierarchical enslavement of
the masses, you'd say the latter.

Private property isnt a "system" as your implying... Its the right to life ,
made concrete. A person needs to make things to stay alive. They need to
control items in their environment to not starve to death. The limit of
thier action is the boundary of the other person's rights. The "science" of
law is the attempt to discover this boundary as clearly as possible.

>By what standard is anything judged? My standards aren't accepted by
everyone.

You premise here is that standards are not objective. I havent met a person
yet that doesnt follow the standard of gravity. I can sum up this
nonsensical line of thinking this way. If you want to say that the universe
is subjective, then you just tried to make an objective statment about the
universe. Naturally this is self contridictory.

>As someone else (Hal, I think) pointed out, they could say the same about
you. One of the libertarian's favorite slogans is "taxation is theft", but
the counter is "property is theft". Who's right? Depends on your values,
actually. If you think property rights are the basis of civilization, you'd
say the former. If you think private property is the basis for hierarchical
enslavement of the masses, you'd say the latter. By what standard is
anything judged? My standards aren't accepted by everyone.<



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