RE: Gematria, Cryptology, and Extropic Mysticism

From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Wed Nov 15 2000 - 14:17:44 MST

Remember the saying by Arthur C. Clarke? Any science/technology
sufficiently advanced is indistinquishable from magic. Want to be immortal,
fly through the air, have food materialize out of thin air, ... ? Through
science/technology we know we can do these things. We deliver on what
religions claim.

Truly this isn't supernatural but imho supernatural is simply a
misunderstanding of where transcendent abilities come from and how they can
exist. "Transcendent" being a relative term here rather than being some
woozy transcending of reality. It looks like transcending reality to minds
that have a more limited understanding of what is and is not possible in

In my opinion we should gather up religious folks and some types of what is
called "mystical" folks and point out that they don't need pie in the sky.
They can have real pie.

There are many different things that are called "mystical". Some of them
are more philosophical/state of mind/experiental states rather than being
some claims of transcending reality. But I would point out that quantum
mechanics defines reality at its most fundamental level as being quite
different and even spooky compared to most people's common-sense notion of
reality. This doesn't mean it should be used to excuse all kinds of
weak-minded nonsense as has become trendy among some of the new-age set.

- samantha

-----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of Michael S. Lorrey
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Gematria, Cryptology, and Extropic Mysticism

The future of science and technology are not mystical, not magick, not
A transhuman is not supernatural.
Capital 'P' Powers are not amazing or incredible, they are merely currently
Mystics read fantasy, extropians read science fiction.
Get it?

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